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Help with settings, etc.
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DSR-11 thru firewire to a Broadcast MonitorA few things, still trying to wrap my head around this. Excuse my ignorance.
I have filmed some 720/30p footage on an HVX200, with my firestore drive.
When I get into the log and transfer window, the footage WILL NOT ingest when I have the pulldown checkbox marked. When I un-check it, IT THEN ingests. (Consequently, and I dont want to confuse THIS specific question, it actually wont even ingest with 24p footage filmed, with that checkbox marked)
Anyhow, wit the 30p footage, is this normal? Is it because I have filmed in 30p? Does it want me to just edit 59.94 natively?SO I ingest it at 59.94. When I get the footage onto a timeline, (now reading 720p60, NOT 720p30 in the browser) it drops onto a timeline at 59.94, and wont play out to my monitor. (which is fed thru firewire via a DSR-11, then S-Video to a broadcast monitor) Only still frames show.
When I change the edit base to 29.97, it DOES play out to my monitor.
So, should I be editing 29.97, or 59.94?This is what I need to do:
Edit this 30 second short and turn it into an NTSC DVD. Thats it.
Thanks!
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In 30p there is no pulldown, so nothing wrong there. Firewire DV will not do an automatic downcovert of 59.94 HD- you’d need an AJA Kona 3 or BMD card.
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If you shot in 30p then you don’t need any pulldown as the full 30 frames were recorded and no frames were duplicated/generated to pad the recording up to 30.
Frame rate should be 29.97.As for your inability to ingest 24p with pulldown checked – in what flavor was it shot?
24P is for shooting a film-like look but maintaining a standard 29.97 signal for ease of use with NTSC gear. Should you force pulldown, FCP will have to guesstimate which frames are the duplicates or fabricated frames.
24PA is also recorded over a 29.97 signal, but it’s written with the intent to have pulldown applied on ingest (the camera flags the exact frames for your edit system to remove), resulting in better end results than you’d get with 24p + pulldown.
24PN – not recorded in a NTSC compatible format like the first two, in this native format the camera actually writes ONLY the 24 frames per second required. No pulldown required, it’s 24fps period. BTW – this format would not be compatible with firewire output to your firestore.
So really, in 2 of the 3 available 24-progressive formats you wouldn’t want/need to apply pulldown.
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So I see that when I drop my 59.94 clips into a 29.97 sequence, it drops every odd frame and will play pretty decent.
Is this the way I want to work? Is this a reasonable work flow or is it necessary to buy separate 3rd part hardware to downconvert?2 –
I realize there are sometimes other circumstances, but for the most part is this true?:When shooting 24p, I am editing in a 29.97f timeline with NO pulldown on ingest.
When shooting 24pn, I am editing in a 24f (or 23.98?) timeline with NO pulldown needed on ingest.
When shooting 24PA, I am editing in a 29.97f timeine WITH pulldown on ingest.
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So I see that when I drop my 59.94 clips into a 29.97 sequence, it drops every odd frame and will play pretty decent.
Is this the way I want to work? Is this a reasonable work flow or is it necessary to buy separate 3rd part hardware to downconvert?”I’m not sure how your clips think they’re 59.94 if you shot 30p? What is telling you to ingest at 59.94?
All DVCProHD codecs are recorded at 60p but only the frames/fields required to support the shooting format are used… so I suppose ultimately the recorded data is 59.94 but you’d never see it as such, unless using the FireStore makes some sort of difference versus shooting on P2.
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