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P2 at 59.94 to 23.98
I’m having a really simple problem, but am totally stumped. I’m dealing with some HVX200 footage shot at DVCPro HD 720P 24 shot at 59.94 running Final Cut Pro 5.1.4. The shooter failed to use the 24PN setting so this is what I’m dealing with. I can’t seem to get rid of the duplicate frames. I’ve tried at ingest with the IMPORT PANASONIC P2 window. There’s a preferences tab and I check “Remove Advance Pulldown and Duplicate Frames,” but I still get clips that are 59.94, not 23.98. I have also tried using the DVCPRO Frame Rate Converter Plugin from both the install disk and from the Panny website. I know I’ve dealt with this problem before when someone shot with the Firestore, but I had no problems. Please help.
-Neil
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8 Replies
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you have to fake a 24p modus.
You can go with nattress film effects.
I see no possibility of getting rid of 1 Frame.Rainer
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I’m not trying to get rid of one frame. I’m trying to get rid of the entire 3:2 cadence with pulldown. There has to be an easier / cleaner way to do this. I’ve done it before from the Firestore. If this means going back to FCP 5.1.2 or 5.0.4, I will. This is just a silly / simple problem that is being a real pain in the butt for some reason. Perhaps, I’m just missing something obvious.
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You can just dump it in a 23.98 timeline or use compressor. I guess that my question would be why would you want to edit 23.98? What are you trying to achieve?
It will still look the same way when you view it on TV 29.97Douglas Villalba
https://www.dvtvproductions.com
G5 QUAD 4.5 GB RAM, Decklink HD Extreme, HVX200, FX1, A1 & HV20
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Thanks, Douglass, appreciate the response. It needs to be in 23.98 becuase that’s what the rest of the show was shot in with a Varicam or HDX900. Simply dropping it into a 23.98 timeline makes for long render time, especially once adding effects, motion, etc…the editors are going nuts. Use compressor? To do what?
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Hello:
Sorry you haven’t got any better advice so far…I cut a film with the same problem, and there is a way to extract the 24 frames from the 60 — this is from a thread of info I got from the Cow that works:
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Take your 59.94 clips, drop into a 720 60p sequence.
Export: Using QuickTime Conversion.
OPTION>Setting>Compressor: DVCPRO HD 720p60
Frame Rate: Custom 23.976
(I think if you pick 24 it is the same rate, regardless the info shows it as 23.98 in FCP)I learned this after many shooters sent me re-encoded clips at 59.94
that the FRC did not like. I avoid 59.94 and the FRC when I can.
—Unfortunately, this is neither elegant nor quick, but it seems it’s the only way to make this work. I did it reel by reel when I ran into this. Good luck with it.
Best, JIM.
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Neil, did you see my post to your earlier question? Should work for you.
Best, JIM.
OSX.4.3
Dual 2.7 G5
3.5 GB RAM
Radeon X800 XT
Kona 2 / K-Box
Seritek 1.2 TB RAID
AVID XPRESS PRO/MOJO -
Jim, I have and thank you so much. Appreciate the help. I’m going to try to get to it today. It still seems odd that the FRC and the Import Panny P2 functions won’t remove the duplicate frames. I wonder if it’s a bug. Clearly, the media DVCPRO 720 24p.
But yes, your solution seems like a definite good one, and right now, my only real one. Thank you very much for the advice. Much appreciated.
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Hi Neil:
I agree that it’s odd there is no easy way to accomplish this in the import dialog. (of course, this ‘fix’ was used with media from FCP 5.1.4, and even though the vrs. 6 Import P2 tool is greatly improved, I don’t believe it has this functionality either…)
Good luck with it. Let us know how it goes.
Best, JIM.
OSX.4.3
Dual 2.7 G5
3.5 GB RAM
Radeon X800 XT
Kona 2 / K-Box
Seritek 1.2 TB RAID
AVID XPRESS PRO/MOJO
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