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DVCHD Pro Quicktime support on PC
Is it possible yet to Play DVCPROHD Quicktime files on a PC?
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Ahhh, so it is Apples fault. I always thought it was Panasonics fault. Does Apple own the DVCpro Codec?
-Lars
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[doka15] “Ahhh, so it is Apples fault. I always thought it was Panasonics fault. Does Apple own the DVCpro Codec?”
you are joking right?
Panasonic created and owns the patents on DVCPROHD, until Microsoft or some PC NLE mfg wants to pay for the license to use it within Direct X you are out of luck.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
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Then what is the correct workflow to convert the files so that they can be used on a PC in After Effects.
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Export using the ANIMATION codec. That is a lossless codec used for just this purpose. HUGE files, but lossless.
Shane
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Change the pixel dimensions to 1280X720?
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Yes, DVFilm Maker (2.3h) will convert Apple DVCPROHD quicktime to Raylight AVI
without recompression, and then you can playback or edit the movie using
Raylight. It is also possible with Raylight to then convert
it to MXF file or other formats.DVFilm Maker is included when you buy Raylight ($195).
See dvfilm.com/raylight
Here is a brief description of the steps that you take
1. Export a DVCPROHD quicktime from FCP
2. On a Windows workstation, install the demo versions of DVFilm Maker for Windows (version 2.3h) and DVFilm Raylight (version 2.01).
Configure the Raylight output folder to an empty folder on your media hard drive (see the Raylight tutorial at dvfilm.com/help).
2. Open the DVCPROHD Quicktime exported from FCP in DVFilm Maker. Maker will not be able to play it back (or will play it back with a white screen) but just ignore that. In Maker select “Deinterlace” and then unselect “Deinterlace”, to turn off all 24P and other processing.
3. In the advanced options select “User selects compression.” All other advanced options should be OFF. Click OK to close the advanced options window.
4. Click on Start. You will be prompted for the AVI codec. Choose DVFilm RAYLIGHT. Click OK.
5. When the process is finished, you will see the movie in the AVI playback window. The AVI viewer in Maker does not play back sound. Use File->SaveAs to save the AVI with an appropriate name. You can check the AVI with Windows Media player, and control the playback quality with the Raylight control panel (see the Raylight tutorial).
Converting Raylight to MXF file:
1. Start Raylight P2 Maker and drag the AVI into the P2 Maker window. See the instructions in the Raylight tutorial on using P2 Maker. The P2 Card images are stored in the “P2Cards” subfolder in the Raylight output folder.
2. P2 Maker can also write directly to a P2 card.
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Well ya, kind of half joking. I know that Panasonic owns DVCpro codec and this has come up before. I am not a programmer but I use a codec called Microcosom which is a 64 bit lossless codec that makes files about 1/3 the size of the Animation codec. It works on Mac and PC and you just drop it into the QT plug’s folder and away you go.
I guess the question is why can’t Panasonic just create that? Is it because it comes from the MXF format? QT can’t read MXF format, it needs to be converted to QT first. So I would guess there is a QT DVCpro QT codec(not 100% sure about that). It seems that if they can get DVCpro to work with QT in OS X then it should be able to work with QT on a PC.
I don’t know all the politics to this but there must be a good reason, I just don’t know it?
-Lars
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Yes Raylight works….
We use it just for that purpose…
Using DVCPRO HD files in AE on a PC.
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[doka15] “I guess the question is why can’t Panasonic just create that?”
Panasonic can’t modify Quicktime, only Apple can do that. Apple could make Quicktime on the PC compatible with DVCPRO-HD immediately if they wanted to, and they wouldn’t have to pay any licensing fees or worry about patents or anything like that. Panasonic distributes a free DVCPRO-HD codec for Windows already; just install the P2 Viewer and you have a free codec. All Apple would have to do would be to program Quicktime to tie into that and they would completely avoid all licensing issues or hassles, as well as avoid having to write a codec for the PC platform.
Will they do it? You’ll have to ask Apple that question. Nobody can modify Quicktime except Apple.
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