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  • What my P2 world needs – a P2 deck!

    Posted by Harryd on September 6, 2006 at 6:48 pm

    I could use what is in effect a P2 deck:

    An external card reader that has :
    1. Video out: DVI, HDMI, Component and Composite
    2. Data In/Out: Firewire 400/800 and eSATA (is SDI needed here?)
    3. Can transcode all the HVX200 formats, especially DVCProHD, to the video outs for monitoring. In fact, does I/O and cross-coding for all the I/O ports.
    4. Has a love affair with FCP.
    5. Can be used on location and in studio, but uses HVX200 batteries.
    6. Only costs $1.98. well, I’d pay more, but you can’t blame a guy for trying.

    HarryD

    Margus Voll replied 19 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Brian Mulligan

    September 6, 2006 at 7:52 pm

    We just had a demo of some new (jan 1) P2 Hd cameras and they had something they are bring out called “mobile” It was a card read that runs on Anton bauer batteries and had a little 16×9 flip top screen and a jog, shuttle tape transpot controls on the front.

    It had HDSDI and I think all the other ins and outs. And it read all teh availbe P2 flavors.

    Should be making some annoucment at IBC in the next week or so.

    BKM

  • Jean-yves Le moine

    September 7, 2006 at 8:57 am

    what is the name of the company?

    jean-yves le moine

    temps r

  • Brian Mulligan

    September 7, 2006 at 11:31 am

    Sorry. I guess it shuld have been obvious.

    PANASONIC

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 7, 2006 at 2:42 pm
  • Harryd

    September 7, 2006 at 3:02 pm

    nah – totally off the mark. too much BS. the last thing i want is a P2 deck with controls that harken back to linear editing. i also don’t need a screen. it’ll be way too expensive. they missed the mark again.

    all manufacturers need to apply the KISS principle.

    HarryD

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 7, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    You’re so weird! This does almost everything you want it to do (no HDMI/DVI), no? What do you want it to do that this doesn’t?

    There’s this:

    https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/sales_o/p2/p2deck/index.html

    but this an SD only deck.

    Jeremy

  • Harryd

    September 7, 2006 at 6:48 pm

    Hmmm… I’m weird? That’s a very nice, professional observation.

    But since you ask – this appears to be a newscutting device with tools set up for working with P2 footage in the field, especially on a truck, doing a cut right in the device on the cards. I guess if you were weird like me you’d know that. But being weird, I see that it has too much on it for a studio environment – us weirdos don’t like to cut on that little jog/shuttle looking at a small LCD. We did that back in the analog tape days and don’t like it anymore – we think that hanging onto old ways of working is weird. But I guess if weirdos think that something is weird, then that makes it normal (principle of double negation, and all that).

    And even ignoring the controls, even though it might do a lot of that for which weirdos ask, the Weirdo Club (of which I am President) don’t like to pay for controls and other functionality that we don’t need.

    So I suppose the logic is that if it doesn’t work for me and I am weird, then it will work for you and you are not. Yes, that makes sense.

    Thank you.

    HarryD

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 7, 2006 at 7:10 pm

    Perfect response Harry, I am a card carrying member of the Weirdo Club myself, so let’s get really weird. The thing is no one knows what this will do, perhaps you can load up six cards at a time, have full “deck control” through firewire in FCP and a handy little references monitor. All decks have deck control functionality on them, does that mean you use them when you hook up your deck to FCP? Nope, but the functionality is there. Do you hit play on the deck instead of the space bar when you are digitizing into FCP, no, probably not but the play button is still on the front because it’s a deck. Let’s say you want to review some footage on the set (one of your listed requirements) and you don’t want to stick your p2 cards back into the camera, wouldn’t this thing be handy? You can keep shooting while someone else reviews the footage, makes notes, whatever. You don’t have to use the built in monitor, as a matter of fact you can bypass and hook it up to your on set monitor with any number of standard connections, but then again maybe you would use the little built in monitor to do a quick tech check. It’s kind of like how I want an LCD screen on the P2 store so i can see what’s on there without hooking it up to a computer. As a matter of fact I change my mind, i wish a p2store was built into this thing. It’d be perfect, no laptop, no transferring of cards into FCP to review footage on set, just fast easy access to my media whether it be the little built in LCD or connected to whatever monitor I want. And aren’t decks the ‘old’ way of thinking anyway? What do you your P2 deck to do that this thing won’t? I still don’t get it.

    Jeremy

  • Harryd

    September 7, 2006 at 7:32 pm

    Hi,

    > Let’s say you want to review some footage on the set (one of your listed requirements)

    I don’t think I listed that in my wish list – I didn’t mean to. What I actually want is a box that connects to the MacPro probably via firewire or SATA and makes the P2 card act like a bidirectional deck, complete with HD outs. In other words, the model in SD would be a DV deck like a DSR-11 connected to FCP via firewire and the video outs to a monitor. Very handy hookup, that. But we don’t have anything like that in the DVCProHD/P2 world (other than a Kona or decklink card), but neither of those will allow ingest – only capture. And they kind of miss this mark, too.

    If the HVX200 would allow one to monitor DVCProHD from the NLE using firewire through the camcorder to component out, then that would work (although not ideal – I never like using a camera for an adapter device).

    I think that’s what I’m after. At the moment I’d be satisfied with coffee and aspirin.

    HarryD

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 7, 2006 at 7:53 pm

    Soo all you want to do is monitor DVCPRo HD out of FCP through firewire? You can use a 1200A or a 1400 DVCPRO HD deck for that. Or you can save yourself some money and get yourself a Kona card, I couldn’t edit without mine and they surely haven’t missed the mark. You can also look at the Matrox MXO thing. There’s options out there, it just depends on what you want.

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