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  • 720 24pn project questions

    Posted by James Mulryan on July 15, 2006 at 10:50 pm

    I am planning to shoot three ten minute promos using the HVX200. In the interest of saving disk space, I would like to
    shoot the project in 720 24pn. Will output to dvd, the web and perhaps Beta SP. Should I be worried about not shooting
    720 30p 60p or 1080i? Mix of interviews, still photos processed through AE and B-roll of construction and architectural elements.

    Harryd replied 19 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Uli Plank

    July 16, 2006 at 4:12 pm

    It depends on the ‘look’ you are aiming at. You’ll get a kind of ‘cinematic’ look this way, and pans over architecture for example need to be done very controlled, slow and smooth to avoid stuttering images.

    60p or 1080i will preserve more temporal information and will have more of a ‘video’ look and less stuttering with fast motion.

    Hope this helps,

    Uli

    Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.

  • James Mulryan

    July 16, 2006 at 5:24 pm

    Uli:

    Thank you. Yes I will watch for movement issues. Is there any artifact problems when exporting to NTSC interlace?

  • Uli Plank

    July 16, 2006 at 6:17 pm

    You’ll need to de-interlace, scale and then re-interlace for normal looking SD in NTSC. Programs like FCP do this automatically.

    All artefacts from the source will be scaled down in the process, so you’ll get excellent quality, if you don’t use DV.

    Regards,

    Uli

    Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.

  • Harryd

    July 16, 2006 at 8:52 pm

    Hi,

    I have just gotten an HVX200, and am also testing with 720 24pn for the same reasons stated above. I am editing with FCP 5.0.4 on a dual 1 GHz G4 Quicksilver 2002.

    My results with this format are less than spectacular. For example, there are a considerable number of hard-edge artifacts on high-contrast areas that are slightly off-horizontal when doing hand-held – the usual thing one sees in DV footage, but actually it the worst with this camera that I’ve ever seen. I’m wondering about 2 things and need help:

    1. is this something that just has to be accepted, as an example of what Adam Wilt referred to as “coarseness” in the chips?

    2. if the image as i describe should be smooth and not so noticeable, what am I doing wrong? ingest from P2 to FCP is fine, using the easy setup seems fine, with the exception of the output.

    DVDs made with this footage in iDVD also have this coarse look to the image. it’s really quite concerning.

    Because I am using a Quicksilver 2002 with dual 1GHz g4 procs, I can’t get realtime playback out the firewire (and the single-frame that does appear look like crap on my HD TV). If anyone cares to comment about ways to get that function, feel free to comment!

    I have other questions, but these will do for now – the footage output is the main thing about which I’m worried. I probably need a new editing workflow, and I’ve seen some on the internet, but none seem to help.

    please help, as I have a shoot in a week and a half and need to develop a plan B if this HD footage is going to look this bad.

    thanks,

    hd

    ps: Jan: if you should see this, Hello! yes, I am the Harry from Baltimore that you know.

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