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HVX 200- 720/25 720/50 in FCP 5.04 ?
Posted by Rainer Wirth on May 16, 2006 at 9:10 pmHi folks,
is it possible to import HDV P2 into FCP 5.04 shot on 720/25 or 720/50 ?
Thanks
Rainer
Mark Burton replied 19 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies -
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Mark Burton
May 16, 2006 at 9:25 pmUnfortunately not. This is the case for FCP v5.0.4, v5.1 and now v5.1.1. We still wait for 720/25/50 support. Equally this is not yet supported in Xpress Pro HD and MCA. The only way to cut this stuff at 720p is to use DV Film Maker v2.3, Cineform Aspect HD or Cineform Connect HD and either Premiere Pro or Sony Vegas – all PC based which is probably no god for you – sorry.
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Shane Ross
May 16, 2006 at 9:54 pmThe HVX doesn’t shoot HDV. It shoots DVCPRO HD. Just a point of clarification.
And no…those formats are not supported at this time by FCP or Avid HD.
Shane
Alokut Productions
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Uli Plank
May 17, 2006 at 5:12 pmHi Rainer,
I’m currently experimenting with HD log to use at least 50p in FCP. Will report soon.
Apart from that, if you plan on buying a MacTel machine, Premiere Pro with Raylight might be a temporary solution for you.
Regards,
Uli
Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.
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Dan Montgomery
May 25, 2006 at 10:23 pmRainer,
Try out our newest HD Log demo, just posted 5-24-06. It now supports PAL 720 25/50. You should be able to view the clip and export All or Selected Clips for FCP XML which makes the QT files with metadata for you…ready to edit. http://www.imagineproducts.com
BTW, we welcome your comments on this solution.
Video logging is just the beginning…
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Shane Ross
May 26, 2006 at 1:19 amDan…GREAT NEWS!
But…does it export them at 720p25 files? As FCP still doesn’t support that format. Or…how would you get them to work with FCP now? Or can you?
Shane
Alokut Productions
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Gary Brown
May 26, 2006 at 12:22 pmThis should be considered an unofficial option until a DVCPRO HD 720p50 codec arrives. We are making the 720p50 type frames look similar to 720p60 type frames so that the currently available DVCPRO HD 720p60 codec will play them. I tried this method with 720p50 and 720p25 MXF sample files and it seems to work, but your mileage may vary. As for FCP, recording in 25PN is probably your best bet.
– Gary
Imagine Products, Inc. -
Dan Montgomery
May 26, 2006 at 1:54 pmShane,
As Gary points out, this is a bit of a ‘hack’ but it seems to work and we’re hoping it will help those in a bind. Since we don’t have access to a PAL camera, we’re hoping the HVX200 Euro community can try it out and give us feedback.
The implemented method worked well on a customer supplied sample.
Video logging is just the beginning…
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Shane Ross
May 27, 2006 at 3:53 amI am really glad to know this. I hope that some PAL people can test this and report results…or we can get hold of some PAL MXF files and test this out.
Shane
Alokut Productions
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Mark Burton
May 28, 2006 at 10:10 amI’m sorry I missed this thread, this is very interesting news Dan and Gary, thanks for looking into this and trying to come up with a solution for us PAL people – its really appreciated.
Anyway I just downloaded the demo and tried a 720p25 file (not pn) – the file imports and plays inside HD Log. When I exported it, Quicktime Player reports it as ‘DVCPRO HD 720p50’ at 50fps – so that seems to work and I was not given any extra options inside HD Log so it must be automatic.
What’s strange is that there is no such 720p50 Apple DVCPRO HD codec! Yet this is exactly how Quicktime Player reports it – codec names usually come straight from the codec bundle but for 720p the Apple DVCPRO HD codec has only ever shown as 24, 30 and 60. It seems to me that this DVCPRO HD codec could easily be enabled/extended for 25 and 50? Perhaps this is where the HD Log trickery is coming in. Perhaps the Apple 720p codec is just frame rate agnostic.
Inside FCP however, it is reported as DVCPRO HD 720p60 at 50fps. I could not set up a custom sequence template to work with the clip as FCP has no 50 option for FPS. I guess you need to shoot with 720pn25 so that you end up with 25fps rather than 50. Unfortunately I only have an FS100 and no P2 cards, so i can’t record PN.
Thanks again for doing this Imagine,
Mark
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