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Final delivery
We do a lot of documentary sport coverage on mini DV currently and dub to digibeta for delivery to the network. I haven’t worked out how would I go with the HVR. If I shoot and edit in any DVCPRO format, without investing in a DVCPRO deck my only option is to output to mini DV for dubbing. Does this negate the benfit of shooting DVCPRO in the first place? We are a small production company so large hardware purchases are not an option. Can anyone tell me what work they are doing with their cams and how the final product is being delivered, specifically for broadcast projects?
Thanks.
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Still delivering digibeta? Then yes, shooting DVCPRO HD and then outputting DV for dubbing to digibeta makes no sense. That is a SERIOUS quality hit.
If you want, the HVX-200 still shoots DV tape at DV quality. So you can get the camera and not get the P2 cards and just shoot DV.
Or you can invest in a capture card and output digibeta directly from a DVCPRO HD timeline. You will see a huge quality improvement over DV.
Shane
Alokut Productions
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Thanks Shane, yeah sky here and network tv accept digibeta and beta sp. My question would be that if I invest in a card, what would I output to exactly, I guess I am asking whether I have to invest in a DVCPRO deck to get any benefit at all from having the HVR200
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As I understand it, you should shoot in dvcpro50 as this, according to barry green’s test footage, provides the best SD image–better than downconverted HD. Export you finished product back to p2, stick the p2 back in the camera then run through your analog outs to a rented Beta/digibeta deck.
i think the problem with this however is your content will be limited by the capacity of the p2 card. 8 gigs. Apparently it’s not possible to reload additional p2 footage to the same beta/digibeta tape seamlessly. I don’t understand why you can’t but apparently that’s the way it is.
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What about if Using a 1009gb firestore. They had one at the roadshow and it was decided that it can be used to bypass the p2 card completely. This would enable you to have a 100gb file to output. Anyone know whether this is possible?
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[brianluce] “Export you finished product back to p2, stick the p2 back in the camera then run through your analog outs to a rented Beta/digibeta deck. “
What? What kind of workflow is that? Where is the deck control? Where is the Component signal? SDI? Where is the timecode?
Shane
Alokut Productions
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[brianluce] “Export you finished product back to p2, stick the p2 back in the camera then run through your analog outs to a rented Beta/digibeta deck. ”
What? What kind of workflow is that? Where is the deck control? Where is the Component signal? SDI? Where is the timecode?
——————————————–I have no idea. that’s what the guy at dvxuser said to do. what the hell do i know. i’m a producer.
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Ha, typical producer. Its all front with you guys. 😉
Anyone who does have a suggestion and KNOWS what they are talking about?
Thanks
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We shot Varicam and HVX-200 with the P2 card. I captured the Varicam with the 1200HD deck, and imported the footage from the P2 cards (for complete shoot to import workflow, go to http://www.lfhd.net). Since you are only shooting with the HVX, you only have to deal with P2 imports. Since you are delivering an SD show, shoot in SD. Shoot DVCPRO 50 and import that into a DVCPRO 50 timeline and edit. You will need at least FW800 drives to handle the higher data rate (G-Raids) or cheap external SATA Raids.
Output. Either rent a DVCPRO 50 deck for a day to output to, or take the project or exported files to a post facility equipped with one. Output to DVCPRO 50, then dub to digibeta. Quality is about the same. And this is a not too expensive workflow. MUCH better than outputting as DV then dubbing to Digibeta. That, to me, is just plain silly.
The other method woud require capture cards and digibeta deck rentals, but I don’t think you want to do that.
If you are increasing your production value, don’t ruin it by not also upgrading your post workflow to match.
Shane
Alokut Productions
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“Shoot DVCPRO 50 and import that into a DVCPRO 50 timeline and edit.”
-shane ross————————
well, I got that part right at least.
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“Output. Either rent a DVCPRO 50 deck for a day to output to, or take the project or exported files to a post facility equipped with one.”
-shane
—————————how do go from the timeline to the dvcpro deck? component or firewire?
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