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  • What are the P2 archive solutions that reatin all MXF metadata?

    Posted by Chris Baldwin on February 10, 2006 at 3:41 am

    What are the P2 archive solutions that reatin all MXF?

    In particular I’m interested in the BlueRay. Does this archive system retain all MXF metadata? So as a workflow question if one were to archive all desired clips from a particular project to Blue Ray, wipe clean the NLE edit drives and then come back to the project…Would one simply need to re-import the clips from the archived BlueRay disk back onto the NLE edit drives? I guess it begs the question. In current tape based FCP you can make the media that you’ve digitized offline from within the project and then re-batch capture from each tape. The media automatically reconnects to the timelines and at most you have to rerender. So how does this work if you’re in the P2 world? I understand that current workflow with current FCPHD still converts the MXF into QT files and imports them into your bins in your project. So is there a make media offline process or are you deleting the files from your bin all together? Additionally Is there any hope of a new update of FCPHD that will work natively with the P2 MXF file? Any chance that’s by NAB or sooner?

    Back to the archiving solutions. Can we make a master list of the options and deliniate what is P2 MXF smart and what isn’t?

    Here’s what I have heard are the archive solutions:

    1.) LTO
    2.) DLT
    3.) Holographic – (NA)
    4.) Hard Drive
    5.) Blue Ray
    6.) DVD
    7.) Capture Tape

    Which keep the native MXF & metadata the cameras produce and that makes P2 so attractive?

    Thanks

    Chris Baldwin
    Shoulder High Productions
    Media of the World; For the World!
    https://www.shoulderhigh.com
    ne*********@**********gh.com

    Barry Green replied 20 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Barry Green

    February 10, 2006 at 8:41 am

    Any archive solution OTHER than DVCPRO-HD tape will retain all the metadata. Only DVCPRO-HD tape discards the metadata.

    (note: this presupposes that you’re backing up the original MXF files. If you’re using FCP 5.0.4 and editing off of the unwrapped/rewrapped Quicktime files, those files don’t have associated metadata with ’em anymore. We really would benefit from nagging Apple to include native MXF support instead of QT rewrapping.)

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  • Chris Baldwin

    February 10, 2006 at 11:03 pm

    Yes I sincerely hope Apple is building this into FCPHD6. How do we send them the message?

    Barry I wonder if you know the anser to my questions though of how the re-importing the MXF files into FCP’s projects after the media has been taken offline at the end of the show?

    Does this it work as tape does where as soon as you’ve re-imported the files and they’ve been unwrapped into QT files that they automatically sync up within your timelines?

    Thanks,

    Chris

    Chris Baldwin
    Shoulder High Productions
    Media of the World; For the World!
    https://www.shoulderhigh.com
    newsletters@shoulderhigh.com

  • Deleted User

    February 11, 2006 at 12:29 am

    [Chris Baldwin] “Yes I sincerely hope Apple is building this into FCPHD6. How do we send them the message?”

    Here’s one way to get FCP product suggestions to Apple:

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

    All the best,

    – Peter

  • Barry Green

    February 11, 2006 at 2:08 am

    [Chris Baldwin] “Barry I wonder if you know the anser to my questions though of how the re-importing the MXF files into FCP’s projects after the media has been taken offline at the end of the show?

    Does this it work as tape does where as soon as you’ve re-imported the files and they’ve been unwrapped into QT files that they automatically sync up within your timelines?”

    It would be more accurate than tape, in that the MXF files are a 1:1 direct frame-accurate importation. You wouldn’t have to re-capture and rely on timecode etc; you’d just unwrap/rewrap the original MXF’s and you would restore it to perfect frame-accurate original state again.

    Native MXF support would be a wonderful thing; I hope every HVX/FCP user follows the link Peter gracefully provided and submits a request for this!

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    Get the most from your DVX camera. The DVX Book and DVX DVD are now available on ebay and at Amazon (https://www.fiftv.com/db)

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