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  • New bluray project

    Posted by Alan Lacey on April 29, 2008 at 8:05 am

    We’ve been planning for a year or so now, this is a long term project that we’re just beging to shoot. Lots of graphics and fx.

    It’ll be another year in the making and we’re producing a bluray and SD DVD. Shooting XDcam on PDW350 and EX1.

    After many tests we still can’t decide on 1080p v 1080i (we’re in Palland here)

    What are the technical implications of each, aside from the aesthetic ones?

    Rafael what’s your advice on this one?

    Alan

    Antonio Ribeiro replied 17 years, 10 months ago 9 Members · 19 Replies
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  • Michael Slowe

    April 29, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    How do propose to play your Blu-Ray DVD’s, I am told that the Sony players will only play studio features and specially licensed material?

    Michael Slowe

  • Rafael Amador

    April 29, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Hi Alan,
    I think that Blueray supports only Progressive footage so 1080p25 would be the way.
    If in the end you don’t want your SD DVD looks progressive, you can use the Re_Vision Re-Interlacer and will look like shoot in 625i50.

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  • Dave Jenkins

    April 29, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Can’t say about the 1080P, but we are authoring Blu-ray from our XDAMHD 330 with 1080i and it looks great! We have tested the playback in the Sony 300, 500 and the PS3 and the BD-R and BD-RW all play.

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  • Alan Lacey

    April 29, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Hi Michael,

    As that’s a year or so away yet, I’ve not given it much thought. Now that Bluray’s the HD DVD format of the future, I assumed that suitable players will be available by then.

    Walter Biscardi and others over in the FCP forum are authoring in Encore and so presumably finding players for their material in the US.

    I’m just trying to minimize my problems downstream by choosing the best format to shoot in at the moment.

    Thanks Alan

  • Rafael Amador

    April 29, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    hi Alan,
    As David says he is playing 1080i without problem. I guess that the BR players can play every format and all the HD screens are multi-scan so shouldn’t be no problem. What I said about that BR only supports 1080p (180p30 to be precise) it may refers to commercial disks.
    Whatever the format you choose, editing will be quite easy in FC. At the moment I’m working with a Laptop. Is OK because what I’m doing is basically cutting and Color. To make multi-layers and “deep-rendering” more CPU and Graphic card are required. EX-1 footage is light but really big.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Alan Lacey

    April 29, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Thanks Guys,

    But I’m a bit concered, Rafeal, that BR will only support 1080p and not i.

    If that’s true then it looks like I’ve no option but to shoot 1080p25

    Alan

  • Noah Kadner

    April 29, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Blu-Ray burners from Pioneer and authoring software- like Adobe Encore are available right now. I’d highly recommend getting them and running some end to end tests before you commit to a format. It could get quite expensive down the road if you end up shoot a less than optimal Blu-Ray format.

    Noah

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  • Michael Slowe

    April 29, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Yes Alan but I’m being told that Sony are being ‘dog in the manger’ by restricting their players to only play the big commercial discs to prevent people burning their own copies. True or false? Can’t get the difinitive answer.

    Michael Slowe

  • Jason Prisk

    April 30, 2008 at 2:54 am

    Alan,

    Haven’t tried it specifically on a Sony player, but 1080i looks great on Bluray. We use the Samsung P1200 for display (trade shows, etc.). Use Encore for encoding, at least until the Apple engineers get back from their iPhone tour of duty and can get us Bluray capability in Studio Pro. Everything works great.

    Jason

  • Rafael Amador

    April 30, 2008 at 3:57 am

    Hi Alan,
    I’ve been reading few threads, and seems that you can put 720/1080/p/1.
    1080p30 will probably be for 35mm films to BR.
    If I would need to start to shoot now without knowing if the final movie will be “i” or “p”, I think I would shoot 1080i. I would prefer de-interlace all the footage better than re-interlace it.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

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