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  • VHS digitising

    Posted by Jasmine1919 on November 15, 2006 at 4:03 pm

    hello,

    I need to digitise some old VHS tapes and was wondering if that was possible using a component to BNC cable from my VHS recoder into my Decklink HD Extreme card. Also, if this is possible, I dont know which colour to put into what… could you help me with this?

    Thank you so much

    Jasmine

    Geir Ove thorsveen replied 19 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jason Levy

    November 15, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    Hi Jasmine,

    Use the “Y” cable of your Decklink analog in. Then go to your OS x system preferences and click on the decklink settings on the bottom. Set video input to “composite” from component.

    That will get you your video in. Unfortunately VHS is not a very stable video signal and you may find it breaking up or aborting the capture.

    I good way to do it if you can is to transfer it to Betacam or something similar first, then digitize from that. The TBC in the deck will assure that the signal input to your Decklink will be stable; even if it breaks up it will not abort the capture.

    The trick for capturing vhs into your betacam deck is to feed the vhs into the composite input, then use the loopthrough (turning the termination off) to feed into the sync (ref) in on the deck.

    Good luck!

    Jason

  • Jasmine1919

    November 16, 2006 at 5:08 pm

    thank you very much for that, however now my FCP refuses to launch… i have trashed all preferences but still refuses… shall i get rid of ALL the preferences? even the ones in DirectoryServide, Sountrck and SystemConf?

  • Jasmine1919

    November 16, 2006 at 7:25 pm

    back to start, fcp works again.. i trashed all user-prefs.
    I have now put the Y (green) cable into the Y in of the blackmagic loom, have set the Blackmagi in syst. prefs onto “NTSC/PAL (Y in) Analogue XLR Audio” – video output, my fcp easy setup settings onto pal 10 bit…. and what i receive is a “no video input sign” on the canvas disturbed by some tape action in black.. no image though… i tried other tapes but it is the same….

    can you help me please?

  • Kristian Lam

    November 16, 2006 at 11:08 pm

    Hi Jasmine,

    [Jasmine1919] “”NTSC/PAL (Y in) Analogue XLR Audio” – video output,”

    Should this be on the video input options and not output? I’m hoping this is a typo.

    regards

    Kristian Lam
    Blackmagic Design

  • Jasmine1919

    November 17, 2006 at 2:46 pm

    yes it is a typo, and i am getting desperate for help here, imagine that even the bloody 10 metre bnc cable had the cable head colours mixed up on both ends! Imagine! blue becomes green and green ands in blue… magic…

    Either way I am still not getting any image from the vhs… i am getting the DVD image in black and white (its a vhs/dvd) player. yet even when setting the machine on vhs it refuses to play it… i am a bit lost and would really need to get these tapes done by tonight….

    to recap:

    vhs to blackmagic HD extreme
    video input on Decklink prefs set to “Y in analogue”, component cable going from green (y) jack in the vhs player into the Y-in of the Decklink loom. FCP easy set-up to PAL – 10bits

    … and what i have is a “no video input” sign on the capture screen which is broken up by some black tape action, as if i was forwarding or rewinding it. Also, when i actually do rewind or forward the tape i clearly see that something (black) is happening, and this is only made clear because the “no video input” sign goes away for longer…

    i am missing a piece of this jigsaw and would really appreciate any help …

    thanks a lot

  • Jason Levy

    November 17, 2006 at 9:37 pm

    Hi Jasmine,

    If you are getting the DVD image of the combined DVD/VHS player then it sounds like the cable is working and you are getting a signal across which is good. There is something in your VHS player that you have to set I would guess to get the output from the VHS not the DVD. Maybe try reading the manual to find out what that would be? I never had one like that.

    It does sound like your signal is getting through which is a start. If it is in black and white that would tend to indicate that your Decklink card is set for component not composite. Maybe check your prefs again. Make sure it is set for composite in.

    Good luck!

    jason

  • Geir Ove thorsveen

    November 20, 2006 at 3:49 pm

    “using a component to BNC cable from my VHS recoder”

    I’m curious to what you are using here Jasmine. Is it a 21-pin SCART to three BNC connectors you are using? If that’s the case, you might get very varying results (some consumer decks and tv-sets doesn’t even have those component pins connected to anything internally). Best bet if your output from the VHS deck is SCART, is to get a SCART to Composite adapter cable and run that to your BMD. Without some time base correction the video might be choppy though.

    If your deck has separate component outs on the back (not RGB, but Y, Cb and Cr), and they are working with DVD-playback and not VHS, I think your problem is with the deck.

    Hope you’ve worked it out.

    Geir.

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