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  • Export to tape problem (Premiere and DVW 250)

    Posted by Jaromir Pesr on September 22, 2005 at 11:34 pm

    Hi,
    I’ve got a portable gigibeta DVW250 recorder connected to Decklink HD Pro 444 card via SDI (in and out) and nine-pin deck control cable. I’m using Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and latest BMD drivers (5.1.2). I can capture to Premiere frame accurate takes with exact in and out points pretty well. But now, when I try to export to tape (using Decklink device control), set the assemble in point (and some pre-roll of course), deck starts to record and when reaching first frame of assemble edit (in point) it stops immediately. An “Player does not support timeline recording…” error message appears (I’ve never seen it in Premiere before). I tried almost all available setups of recorder and even Decklink (different pre-roll and offset values) with no success. Decklink Deck Control app is doing something very similar (but not the same) so I am not able to do timecode based assembles. When I just hit record on deck and then play timeline everything seems to be fine.
    Is there some hidden trick?
    Is it possible to use DVW250 portable for this operation at all? I have never seen any “supported decks” list.
    I’ll be really happy for any suggestion.
    THX

    Jaromir Pesr
    IO postproduction
    Prague, Czech Republic

    Jaromir Pesr replied 20 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
  • 3 Replies
  • Baz Leffler

    September 23, 2005 at 5:28 am

    I am pretty sure the DVW250 is not supported as an editor from an external controller. I had a similar situation years ago with a BVW 35 trying to edit to it using ProVTR.

    The 9 pin contol on these portable decks is there only to support feeding a computer or as a player connected to a recording deck.

    It does get worse; the humble Sony J3 digiplayer has 9 pin control but Sony deliberately stripped out the ability to synconise the deck for an external controller and even worse, you can’t even do deck to deck editing; just so they can sell more full featured decks.

  • Ray K

    September 23, 2005 at 10:08 pm

    hi Jaromir .
    I have and use a dvw250. Sometimes I get that same error msg in premiere.
    What I do is save the project. then close premiere, make sure the deck is parked in black that has been striped on the tape.. “menu in DVW-250 set to TC off tape. Open the project and export to tape.. this works for me about 99% of the time.. But I have gotten pro-vtr software and that works 100% of the time. but it took a little time to get setup as frame accurate. Hope this helps..
    regards
    ray

  • Jaromir Pesr

    October 5, 2005 at 1:54 am

    Hi Ray,
    thank you very much for your reply. Now I know it’s probably not impossible, but I tried to reproduce your way with no success. Everytime I try to export to tape I get this annoying message. I am not sure if deck is set up properly, but there are not to many choices to try (and I thing I tried almost everything). Which Decklink model do you have? And are you PAL or NTSC guy? Sorry to bother you but can you specify more accurately your deck setup? I’m also thinking of purchasing ProVTR, but there is no chance to try it before buy unfortunately. I’ve got two Decklink machines (HD and SD) and both experiencig same behaviour.
    I’ll be happy with any comment
    Regards

    Jaromir Pesr
    IO postproduction
    Prague, Czech Republic

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