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One sided trim RARELY works
Hi all. We upgraded to Media Composer 5.0 last February and suddenly one-sided trims only worked about 40% of the time. It’s such a basic editing maneuver which I use ALL THE TIME so it’s been driving me nuts! I couldn’t understand why this was suddenly an issue so I figured it was a bug. Yesterday we upgraded to 5.5.2 and I figured this would be fixed. But instead it’s worse!
Is anyone else having this problem? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Dan
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Can you further explain or post a video of what’s happening? What steps are you taking to do the trim, what happens when you try to trim (do you get an error message? Dinging sound? Just nothing happening?). Provide as much detail as possible. Are you using the new Smart Tools to trim or Avid’s classic trimming model?
Do you have Sync Lock on?
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Michael Hancock
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It doesn’t work in Classic mode or using the Smart Tools. Yes, Sync Lock is on.
What happens is when I try to do the trim, the little indicators on locator are red instead instead of purple. The if I try to do the trim, it treats it as a 2-sided trim. So if I want to extend one clip in the timeline, it doesn’t extend just that clip as it’s supposed to. Instead it just extends the clip into the next one.
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This is called an Overwrite trim and is a new feature in 5 as part of the smart tool. If you trim in the direction of the other shot it will overwrite into it, if you trim away, it will leave a gap. Personally I can’t stand it and for the sparse occasions I needed to remove some footage and leave a gap Alt and Single roller trim did this fine. Anyway, this should only happen if you have the smart tool active and click on the left or right of a cut point, in the bottom section of the clip, and drag in order to perform your trim. If you enter traditional trim mode and click on the A or B image, then your should be in Ripple trim (which is exactly the same as a single roller trim but now yellow rather than red). Try just turning the smart tool off if you are having trouble.
Andrew McKee
Editor/Colourist
Avid Certified Instructor – MC5.5
Apple Certified Trainer – FCP7
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Thank you!!!!
I can’t believe I went so long without figuring this one out. Duh…
My day just got a whole lot better.
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No worries Dan. It’s often difficult to find the time to train yourself on new software features when you have deadlines to meet. Glad I could help.
Andrew McKee
Editor/Colourist
Avid Certified Instructor – MC5.5
Apple Certified Trainer – FCP7
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Yeah, the overwrite trim is a ridiculous idea that drives me batty, and I can’t think of a single reason to use it.
Chris
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I seem to be having the same problem – and ‘solving it’ only to switch editing rooms and have to rediscover what I did.
I’ve got sync lock on.
I *believe* my smart tools are turned off..
I try and do a left sided trim (i.e. to take out time) and the rollers are yellow, but I release and it gives the error ding and doesn’t change anything.
Very frustrating.
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At the risk of being obvious, are you running into a situation where a clip on another track is colliding with another clip? In Avid, unlike in say FCP X, clips won’t move out of the way, so every collision needs to be dealt with by applying a single-sided trim to them too.
Chris Conlee
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Hi Chris
I think it must be something obvious – every time I go back to Avid after FCP there’s a period of acclimatization, so there might have been something at the point I was working at I didn’t notice.
I just ended up adding dummy edits to all the ’empty’ tracks to get around it and it seems to be working elsewhere.
John
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