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Do I not like Avid Adrenaline.
Found out today the joy that is the little bug on Adrenaline called added frame. I have been trying to work out why I couldn’t do a correct insert edit, at first I thought it was the digi machine I was using. After a long call to the Avid people who ‘look after us’ I found out it was the Adrenaline.
WHY ARE AVID SELLING THIS MACHINE AND NOT TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THIS PROBLEM!!!!!!!
I don’t care for a colour correction, 3Dfx etc, etc…I want to be able to do the most basic thing like an insert edit.
Anyone feel the same???If anyone knows how to get around this wonderful gift for Avid please let me know.
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Are you refering to the timeline or a digicut back to tape?
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[andy garcia] “the little bug on Adrenaline called added frame”
Never heard of it.
I do know that if you set an in-point, then want to set an out point 60 seconds later, you type +59.29, not +60:00. That’s not an Adrenaline-specific error, that’s basic timecode math. It’s like playing hide and seek as a child. When counting to ten, did you start with the number one or with zero? Technically (as per a stopwatch), one needs to start with zero. Maybe that’s why I was always found?
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Well this maybe just a UK problem..
If mark in and out on my timeline eg
IN – 10.00.00.00 OUT -10.00.10.00.On my digi cut tool it will read
IN – 10.00.00.00 OUT – 10.00.10.01.
The extra frame comes out as a frame of black. the prog I’m working on doesn’t have any fade to black (so could hide the frame there) so I have to play the whole thing out if I have to make any changes.I have spoken to a number of different editors and got different answers. some agree with my problem and some say their Avid is all fine. My avid support said that avid know about this problem but don’t know how to fix it. What gets my goat is that I’ve just joined a new company and it cost them a lot of money to buy this avid and by the looks of it they can’t get thier money back. I think this is very wrong.
Any ideas?
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Our Adrenaline editor just came across this issue. Not sure if he figured it out either. I’m happy that I’m still on a Meridian system.
What’s you hardware config? Maybe were both experiencing it because of hardware? I’ve found Adrenaline users that never have any problems & others that always have problems. We’re apart of the second group.
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With MCA 2.1, if I did an insert edit with a real-time effect on the clip, (i.e. color effect) it would often insert a frame of black as the first frame. If I rendered the effect, the edit would be fine.
MCA 2.1.5 has fixed this problem.Bob
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I’ve been going through this problem as well, although it is intermittent.
My workflow usually involves assembling the entire programme to tape and then using insert edit to do any fixes. In view of this, this problem is more of a problem if the bad edit happens during the first assemble. The programme will effectively have a flash frame of black at the beginning and also the clock will no longer be accurate. Depending on how fussy you are feeling you can sometimes get around this: first by re-inserting the clock; second, by modifying your sequence timecode to start one frame later, rolling the start point of your opening shot back by one frame and inserting the first shot back to the tape. As I’ve modified my sequence timecode, this edit and any other insert edits I go on to make will be on the right timecode in relation to the tape.
If my first assemble was OK and I get the problem whilst inserting specific shots onto the tape, I can just re-do the edit and it comes good.
Otherwise the only solution is the play the whole programme out again.
I agree that it’s a very annoying problem. Adrenaline is a lot more flaky than the old Meridien systems. But it can do more in realtime.
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