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  • Wedding DVD burning file size Vegas Render

    Posted by Derek Charles on December 15, 2017 at 9:01 am

    I have a ceremony at 2.76 GB at 26 min
    and a reception at 2.76 GB at 24 min
    both together are too big to fit on one disc (4.7 gig)
    the total bitrate for each is 14MB/s
    The only way to lower file size is to lower the render bitrate?
    How much should I lower it by until I notice a big quality difference?
    Thanks

    Graham Bernard replied 8 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 22 Replies
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  • James Ollick

    December 15, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    Would a double layer DVD do it? They can handle about 8 gigs.

    James Ollick

  • Jorma Nippala

    December 15, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Note that “[DVD] total bitrate including video, audio and subs can be max 10.08 Mbit/s (10080 Kbit/s).”

  • Graham Bernard

    December 15, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    [Derek Charles] “I have a ceremony at 2.76 GB at 26 min
    and a reception at 2.76 GB at 24 min
    both together are too big to fit on one disc (4.7 gig)
    the total bitrate for each is 14MB/s “

    I can fit 120minutes on a single DVD. There has to be a real good reason to go above 8mbs. Why have you chosen such a high bitrate?

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Graham Bernard

    December 15, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    And to be a bit more helpful, do use a bitrate calculator. I use one called David’s Bitrate calculator. The other freebie is the BitRate viewer that will read in a MPG file and indicate just where the high rates are being used and gives me an indication just where in the video the heavy lifting is happening and just what I can do to reduce the bitrate. The BIGGEST hidden overhead is actual “Noise “. This can be from low light scenarios which had needed GAIN, which in turn produced GRAIN. Getting the picture? I use NeatVideo to iron out any “overhead” noise.

    And again, why the high BitRate?

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Derek Charles

    December 15, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    Well, I always figured that since my A7sii filmed in 100Mbps bitrate I should keep it close to that when rendering –
    I’m honestly just now learning that 100Mbps is around 12.5 MB/s – Should I have just always never gone above 12.5 MB when exporting?

    I mainly upload to Vimeo and Facebook – The stock render template for internet is “Internet HD 1080p” with a max of 24 and an average of 12.

    I’ve since dragged the 1080 24max/12avg file and rendered that file to 10max and 4avg and the size is now 1.09GB so I can fit both on one DVD. Is there quality loss from rendering a1080 file to 1080 file with the same bitrate settings? I’m asking this for color grading and “rendering to a new track” for smoother playback.

    IF that’s the way to go – for uploading to Facebook/Vimeo – Should I stick with the 10max/4avg ? Will this help with overall playback speed, and helping it “reach HD quicker during playback because the file size is smaller to load?

  • Derek Charles

    December 15, 2017 at 10:39 pm

    If I film in 100Mbps bitrate Should never go above 12.5 MB when exporting?

    I mainly upload to Vimeo and Facebook – The stock render template for internet is “Internet HD 1080p” with a max of 24 and an average of 12.

    I’ve since dragged the 1080 24max/12avg file and rendered that file to 10max and 4avg and the size is now 1.09GB so I can fit both on one DVD. Is there quality loss from rendering a1080 file to 1080 file with the same bitrate settings? I’m asking this for color grading and “rendering to a new track” for smoother playback.

    IF that’s the way to go – for uploading to Facebook/Vimeo – Should I stick with the 10max/4avg ? Will this help with overall playback speed, and helping it “reach HD quicker during playback because the file size is smaller to load?

  • Derek Charles

    December 15, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    I’ve since dragged the 1080 24max/12avg file and rendered that file to 10max and 4avg and the size is now 1.09GB so I can fit both on one DVD. Is there quality loss from rendering a1080 file to 1080 file with the same bitrate settings? I’m asking this for color grading and “rendering to a new track” for smoother playback.

    If I film in 100Mbps bitrate Should never gone above 12.5 MB when exporting?

    I mainly upload to Vimeo and Facebook – The stock render template for internet is “Internet HD 1080p” with a max of 24 and an average of 12.

    IF that’s the way to go – for uploading to Facebook/Vimeo – Should I stick with the 10max/4avg ? Will this help with overall playback speed, and helping it “reach HD quicker during playback because the file size is smaller to load?

  • Graham Bernard

    December 16, 2017 at 5:05 am

    [Derek Charles] “IF that’s the way to go – for uploading to Facebook/Vimeo – Should I stick with the 10max/4avg ? Will this help with overall playback speed, and helping it “reach HD quicker during playback because the file size is smaller to load?”

    You’re asking great additional questions. Maybe others wish to jump in. I hope my feedback has given you the option to explore further and just what the way to publish your videos.

    Suffice it to say, we all need to tailor our output to the platform it will be seen on. My Canon can record at 50Mbs. There’s no way I’d expect this to be tolerated by a DVD and a DVD player! But I’m stoked that my XF300 can do this and provide me with a 422 colour space. Getting my worked prepped for a DVD, running at 7.5 MB or even 4MBs MP4 for auditorium presentation works great for me. Are you getting the picture? ????

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • John Rofrano

    December 17, 2017 at 12:48 am

    [Derek Charles] “I’ve since dragged the 1080 24max/12avg file and rendered that file to 10max and 4avg and the size is now 1.09GB so I can fit both on one DVD. “

    You do realize that it will NEVER play because DVD’s don’t support HD video!

    You need to render to SD MPEG2 if you want to make a playable DVD unless you are just using the DVD for data storage like a USB stick,

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Derek Charles

    December 17, 2017 at 6:01 am

    Would the 1080 on the DVD just play as 720, or is that a strong NEVER play?
    Also, aren’t most up to date DVD players equipped to where when inserted, an option comes up as if it were a USB stick or just reading the data off of the disc – so it would have the files available to click on and play, no?

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