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  • Stabilizing in Sony Vegas Pro 13?

    Posted by Seth Kopchu on April 4, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    So I’ve never had to use stabilization before, and so I need to know some basics.

    Any general settings that you guys prefer? My big issue is that, whenever I use the plug-in, the resulting image is always zoomed in on the video and it’s not at all the desired effect I want. Is there any way around this, or is this how Sony thinks you want your videos to look once they’ve been stabilized? Either that, or I’m doing something wrong (most likely this).

    John Rofrano replied 11 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 14 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    April 4, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    [Seth Kopchu] “Any general settings that you guys prefer? My big issue is that, whenever I use the plug-in, the resulting image is always zoomed in on the video and it’s not at all the desired effect I want. Is there any way around this, or is this how Sony thinks you want your videos to look once they’ve been stabilized? Either that, or I’m doing something wrong (most likely this).”

    So let’s understand what stabilization does. It moves the video frame which is edge-to-edge in a way that keeps an object relatively in the same spot on the screen as the camera was actually moving. Moving the video frame 1 pixel in any direction to compensate for the shake is going to cause a line of black pixels in the other direction because there is no video behind the frame to show. Moving the frame 100’s of pixels in several directions to counteract the shaking is going to cause large black bars on all sides of the frame. The only way to eliminate these bars is to zoom in to hide the black bars. So zooming is not how Sony thinks it should be. Zooming in is required to hide the black bars caused by moving the frame to keep it stable.

    If you don’t like how much it zooms in, you can purchase the full Mercalli plug-in which gives you a lot more control. Then you will see that as you lower the zoom, it increases the motion because you can’t have both… it’s a trade-off.

    Here is a video I made of Mercalli V2 so you can see how the full updated version works.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uajXCD34Hok
    Vegas only contains a subset of Mercalli V1 functionality so you will get a lot more control with the full version.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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  • Steve Rhoden

    April 4, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    Zooming in gonna come with any form of stabilization method you try.
    Prodad Mercalli plugin is the best you gonna get plugin-wise, or for
    even better result, is the stand-alone of their new version.

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • Norman Black

    April 5, 2015 at 3:12 am

    You cannot get rid of the zooming but you can minimize it. Here is a post I once did when I found some quirks with the built-in Vegas satabilier.

    https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=888701

  • Steve Rhoden

    April 5, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    Yeah, but when it’s minimized the image is less stabilized!
    The built in stabler has quirks and limitations, will always have.
    Best options are the direct Mercalli plugin or the stand-Alone version.

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • John Rofrano

    April 6, 2015 at 11:41 am

    [Steve Rhoden] “Yeah, but when it’s minimized the image is less stabilized!”

    That’s why I said it’s a trade-off. You need to decide if a little shake is worth less zoom. The best solution is, “buy a tripod!” 😉

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    April 6, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    Or buy a Body Rig Steadicam stabilizer, lol

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • John Rofrano

    April 6, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    [Steve Rhoden] “Or buy a Body Rig Steadicam stabilizer, lol”

    Or improvise… I was once asked to shoot a dance competition that I was only planning to record my daughter’s dances for myself so I only had a hand held camera and nothing else. I found the closest column in the room and rested my shoulder on it and used it to steady my arms. I got some pretty good shots (if I do say so myself) and once or twice when my hand cramped and the camera moved, I steady it out with CoreMelt Lock & Load X (sorry it’s for FCP X not Vegas Pro). So stabilizers do have their place when there is no tripod available.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    April 7, 2015 at 12:47 am

    I’ve always liked how those CoreMelt product line looked, but
    unfortunately cant get the chance to try them out being all
    Windows based 🙁

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

  • John Rofrano

    April 7, 2015 at 11:42 am

    [Steve Rhoden] “…but unfortunately cant get the chance to try them out being all Windows based :-(“

    I have to admit that one of the best things about switching to Mac is the overwhelming amount of plug-ins for FCP X and Motion. All of the plug-ins that I use to see and say, “Oh that’s for the Mac” I can now use. Since I also still have Windows 7 and Vegas Pro with Bootcamp, I have the best of both worlds. 😉

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    April 7, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    Boy, Lucky you, lol…

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
    Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

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