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  • V13 pro: Masking, Keyframes, Properties & bulk changes

    Posted by Doug Jackson on August 20, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Anyone know how I can update the properties of all of my masking keyframes in Pan&Crop either by script or some other method?

    I have been masking an event and have lots & lots (and lots)of keyframes so that I can track the motion of the person.
    I set the Feather property to “In” and a 2% value before starting to add keyframes. So every time I added a keyframe by moving the mask, it replicates the properties of the mask. Now I’d like to change ALL of the keyframes and the properties of the mask to a different percentage value for feathering.

    You would think that if you were to select all of the keyframes and change the value it might just apply to all of them, but as far as I can tell, the change only get applied to the 1st keyframe I selected (or maybe it’s the last — but it is definitely not ALL of them).

    I’ve looked through the scripting API, and am not finding properties that match masking (ie Feather settings).

    Thanks for any insights and/or tips.

    Regards,
    –Doug

    Doug Jackson replied 11 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Graham Bernard

    August 20, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    [Doug Jackson] “but it is definitely not ALL of them”

    Wow! – Re-proed here. Bummer….. I really can’t see a way through this one?

    Grazie

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  • Aleksey Tarasov

    August 20, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Ask SCS (here) to add this function to Vegas Pro (and to their Scripting API, currently there is no way to do it)

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  • Norman Black

    August 20, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Yep, this is the way it is, but I can understand why.

    Say you have three keyframes with values, or slider pos, of 5, 10 and 15. You select all three. What do you display in the user interface for users to modify? 5, 10 or 15. The UI needs a new display value meaning, multiple different settings for that value. Regardless, if you enter a new value they could all get the new value.

    Multiple keyframe selection in Vegas seems to be all about moving them together. Not setting value(s).

  • Doug Jackson

    August 20, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Hi Norman,

    You display to the user nothing, blank out the field, just like when in an application where you select 3 lines of text with various font sizes. The font size goes blank.
    This would be a helpful indication to the user that these keyframes have different values for that parameter and that if they choose to change the setting it will get applied to all of the selected keyframes.

    Regards,
    –Doug

  • Doug Jackson

    August 20, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Hi Aleksey,

    I will do so, and may I indulge anyone in the community who may also benefit from such a feature to do the same.

    Regards,
    –Doug

  • Doug Jackson

    August 20, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Hi Grazie,

    Well, I’m ‘glad’ it just wasn’t me.

    Regards,
    –Doug

  • Aleksey Tarasov

    August 20, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    Done!

  • Graham Bernard

    August 21, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Added my Vote for this feature to be rolled-out.

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Norman Black

    August 21, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    [Doug Jackson] “You display to the user nothing, blank out the field, just like when in an application where you select 3 lines of text with various font sizes. The font size goes blank.”

    That works for UI fields with text entry. In this context what about the buttons for positive/negative mask. The buttons for the type of feather and the feather amount slider. Not to mention the mask itself. What if they differ between keyframes. What state should they be displayed in when multiple keyframes are selected.

    I suppose one can hide disable those items in that state, but then come the inevitable support question about why has “…” stopped displaying. How many time has I read in forums the last year and a half about people saying FX not longer work and they has the FX bypass button clicked.

    There are some hammers you do not want to hand to users to beat you with.

  • Doug Jackson

    August 21, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Hi Norman,

    In the specific context of attributes to the mask to which I am referring, I don’t see any that I might not want to apply a bulk change.

    These parameters also have nothing to do with the location of the mask (which I don’t want to change since I have spent hours carefully adjusting it in the multiple keyframes).

    There are many ways for programmers to handle these types of scenarios.
    Maybe the fields which have differing values get highlighted when you select the multiple keyframes.
    Or for instance, if you have multiple keyframes selected and go to apply a parameter change, the user could be notified that it will affect all of the selected keyframes, with a big OK or Cancel option.
    How about a ‘tool tip’ or maybe even (maybe as a last resort), an instruction in the Help file?

    Sorry, but I don’t get how adding this feature is somehow an additional support burden. If your logic was applied, I doubt there would ever be many new features rolled out because, well, they would be too difficult to support.

    And besides there’s always “Ctrl+Z”

    Regards,
    –Doug

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