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sony vegas 12 platinum burning bluray too dark. also volume question
shot on canon avchd, edit in sv 12 plat, burn blu ray comes out too dark.
how can I get what I see in the editing/preview to be the output with respect to lightness of the scene? some come out super dark.
I saw something on youtube about clicking studio/rgb/computer, not sure what order.
Like to get a clear answer from an expert.
When I edit, I listen in on senn hd studio monitor headphones, and I set levels for them, granted they are probably overly loud, but to get predictable results:
– what should volume level on computer be set at out of 100 as I am editing and adjusting volume such that after I render it on a dvd or bluray, I get the level I heard, which would be nice, yes?
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When you are playing this particular bluray, What are you viewing it on?
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The first thing I would consider is your computer monitor. Is it calibrated? If not, it may be showing a video image which is too bright when, in fact, the image is too dark. Obtaining the same image across many different devices, like computer displays and televisions, is difficult and affects everyone who works with digital images.
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Yea, what are you using to determine it’s darker? Darker than what on which device?
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I played a bluray I burned on a new blu ray player at a best buy that was demoing an ironman film on large tv.
It looked darker than what was seen on my screen.
Also, when I burned dvd’s I would have the same problem, yet it would vary.
On my pc laptop with the screen actually mid brightness or less, it looked fine.
On the pc computer tower on which it was burned it looked ok, but I believe I had to play with it as the first dvd’s had the same problem.
on someone’s mac, the dvd looked very dark, then he put it in a dvd player I didn’t see which type/brand and he said it was fine.
that was a dvd-r.I had a bluray burner, LG, installed and burned one blu ray that was the one that played too dark on a tv hooked up to a new blu ray player at best buy. also, after I had the blu ray burner installed, I burned a dvd there, and put it in a just purchased bluray player and hooked it up to an in store tv. too dark.
and lastly, when I listen to the sound in the timeline, at what volume setting should the computer be at out of 100 in order to get predictable volume levels. the headphones are loud, sennheiser hd monitor headphones, cost about 110.
thank you all for helping!
I looked up a help video on youtube, is this the way to go?in brief; add track fx, sony levels, ok
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Hi Bob, thanks,
I only opened the box, hooked it up, never changed a thing.
I will look up how to calibrate a screen. I’m low budget, may have to wing it by trial and error. Just for now, want to not have darker scenes be unviewable. open to ideas or approximate fixes to just keep things moving. -
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after having a computer building/repair place install the LG bluray player, I burned one blu ray on a memorex bluray (not a dvd as said above). that one and only bluray I’ve burned looked too dark in that computer store on a new from the box bluray player hooked up to a tv.and that one and only blu ray I burned at that store was taken to a bestbuy and tested on a bluray player hooked up to a tv that was playing iron man, which one, I don’t know. I know, I need to see more movies.
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[Bryan London] “I played a bluray I burned on a new blu ray player at a best buy that was demoing an ironman film on large tv. It looked darker than what was seen on my screen.”
Usually TV’s in stores are placed into Demo Mode where they boost everything to make everything exaggerated. Also, unless you calibrate your TV, you will be hard pressed to find two that look the same. Everything on my Toshiba HDTV looks darker than everything on my Sony HDTV. I’ve learned to ignore it. Some TV’s just crush the blacks because the manufacturer things it looks better.
You are not doing anything wrong. All you can do is calibrate your computer monitor and use the Video Scopes in Vegas to determine if your luminance levels are correct. If it looks good there you are done. How it looks on anyone’s TV will be different. Just learn to live with it.
If you really want to make your video lighter, you can drop Computer RGB to Studio RGB filter on the master output but I wouldn’t do that unless your Video Scopes are telling you that your luminance is too low. Learn to trust your Video Scopes.
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To add to John’s excellent advice, you will never get two consumer devices to look the same.
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Ok thank you.
what volume level is good for the computer itself, more likely to give somewhat predictable a results on the finished product?
because, when I listen on the senn headphones, it is super loud. and I can adjust the scene or the computer of course. what do you typically set your computer’s volume at? do you use headphones?
to me it makes sense to find out what the number is to set the computer volume on from 1-100, and then adjust each clip/cut/scene volume so everything is reasonably audible and not painfully loud later on output.
thank you for the advice, I will learn how to use scopes I guess.
I guess this highlights the importance of getting middle of the road lighting on set and then f ing w it later. One scene was really low light such that it’s on the verge up and down as I make adjustments and renders.
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[Bryan London] “what volume level is good for the computer itself, more likely to give somewhat predictable a results on the finished product?”
You should be using your volume meter in Vegas to judge volume. If you want to have your speakers match your Vegas meter you will need to calibrate them with a Sound Pressure Level (SPL) meter. Luckily you can find these for iOS and probably Android so you can use an iPhone/iPad/iPod or other tablet. What you want to do is place a -20dB reference tone on the timeline and set your master volume meter in Vegas to read -20dB and then use your speaker volume on your computer to adjust the speaker volume until the SPL Meter reads -20dB from your speakers at the point you are listening from. You can create a -20dB reference tone with Sound Forge or probably find on on the internet.
BTW, your speakers should be as far away from each other as they are from you. In other words, if you are sitting 3 feet away from your speakers, they should be 3 feet from each other to form a triangle with your head at one corner and the speakers at the other two. You also want to use professional monitors and not “computer speakers”. Computer speakers usually color the sound to make movies sound better. You want to hear unaltered sound with as flat a frequency response as possible. This holds true for your sound card as well. Consumer cards tend to color the sound while professional cards remain flat.
~jr
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