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  • is there any loss with the amount of times I render

    Posted by Brent Holland on November 12, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    I am rendering at HD 1920 x 1080p I just finished a 7 hour render and forgot to add a 30 second commercial at the end. I wanted to just add it on to the finished rendered project and not have to re-render the project.

    But in general in the digital age technically no matter how many times you render a something it should be loss-less, no?

    I come from an analog audio background when decades ago, we used to have to bounce tracks and there was always loss. But now with digital there isn’t.

    Is it indeed the same for video? Or is there a limit to amount of renders you could conceivably do? Thx all in advance.

    Roger Bansemer replied 12 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Kelly Griffin

    November 12, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Unless I’m missing something, how would you just “add it onto the end of the project” otherwise?

    –KG

  • Brent Holland

    November 12, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    is there any video loss / degradation due to the to the amount of times one renders something thx

  • Steve Rhoden

    November 13, 2013 at 12:01 am

    Yes, there is a gradual loss of quality if doing multiple re-renders,
    but the majority of the time its not noticeable.
    In your situation, you can easily add that commercial to that already
    rendered file, and do one final render…. All will still be well.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Stephen Mann

    November 13, 2013 at 4:16 am

    Yes, despite what the ads say, there is no such thing as lossless compression. You can see the degradation on a scope even when using so-called uncompressed. But to the eye, there is probably not likely to be any visible loss.

    But your question raises another question about your workflow. The correct fix would be to add the footage and render again. But if you use the output from the first render on the timeline of the new project, and you use the same render template, loss would be minimal.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Brent Holland

    November 13, 2013 at 4:22 am

    thx Steve(s) that is exactly what I did when I re-rendered the project.

    as it is the 50th of JFK next week you can watch one of the docs here:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/6opmsd20hocjc1d/1st_Person_Witnesses_To_theJFK_Assasination_BrentHolland.mp4

    Ted Sorensen was my friend and I am honoured to be the only Canadian asked to be keynote speaker in Dallas for the memorial.

    The second doc I am working on is Abraham Bolden 1st African American secret service agent handpicked by JFK No, he was not on duty that day or JFK would be alive. He tried in vain to warn of impending doom in Dallas and is haunted by it to this day.

  • Steve Rhoden

    November 13, 2013 at 8:14 am

    You are welcome. And great work!

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Roger Bansemer

    November 13, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    There is a loss of time depending on if you render “drop frame” or non drop frame”. I ran into this with our PBS show. Kept coming up a few frames short until John Rofrano figured the problem out.
    If you right click on the time counter just above the track options on the left you’ll see that option.

    Roger Bansemer – PaintingAndTravel.com

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