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Sony user, needs cross platform, is Premiere reasonable?
Hey All,
I have used Vegas for YEARS but now how a job that Macs are quite prevalent. The option for running Bootcamp on so many computers is not an option, but I was thinking about a group licence for ADOBE cloud services and wanted to know anyone here who uses it and how well it works. I have no desire to work with FCP and hope Premiere may be a good fit with working over two platforms (OSX and Win7)…
I am familiar with Photoshop and use that as a medium user, wanted to know the learning curve in Premiere as well…Thanks in advance for your input!
Scott Francis
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You might get a better answer in the Premiere forum with regard to how well Premiere works cross platform. I don’t think you’re going to find a lot of Vegas editors who like Premiere’s workflow. I for one, do not. I have it because I purchased CS6 for After Effects, Photoshop, and Illustrator, and I try to use Premiere from time to time but I just can’t tolerate it. It takes too many steps to get things done that are simple to do in Vegas Pro.
I also will not be held hostage by Adobe’s “rent it or loose it” attitude and have no plans to upgrade to Creative Cloud. Just remember that if you buy a CC subscription and then later decide to switch from Adobe, any projects you have created will be useless. You can’t make any chances for clients because once you stop paying the software stops working. It’s also more expensive because you can’t decide to skip and upgrade and save money. I don’t see how anyone could agree to that.
I know you said you don’t want to use FCP X but IMHO, that’s a big mistake. As a Vegas Pro editor, I absolutely love FCP X. It is very “Vegas-like” and I can switch between Vegas Pro on the PC and FCP X on the Mac quite easily. If you are looking for something as easy and powerful as Vegas on the Mac, then FCP X is definitely worth a second look. The magnetic timeline is absolutely brilliant. Once you start using it, you’ll wonder why all NLE’s don’t work that way.
~jr
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That’s great to hear John, regarding FCPX. What are you using to run Windows on the Mac? After this current project I’m expecting to convert all my Windows stuff to my Mac with Parallels, but if there’s a better option before I begin, I’d love to know what it is.
As to Premiere, I made the switch and have been editing a lot of work in the last year on it. While it is much more cumbersome to use than Vegas (and I have upgraded to 12 though am still disappointed in it’s performance), it is rock solid, and I never worry about it crashing on me. I have completed one upgraded project on 12, just last week, and it crashed every day I used it, once I started adding effects and titles. Oddly, it was stable for over two weeks until I started grading it and putting in the titles. Then it crashed every time I exited it. This never happens to me in Pr.
Pr cross platform does work well. However, it seems that there are more problems on the Mac, from the listings of problems on the Adobe forum. My recommendation to anyone switching is to max out their RAM. My latest 36 minute HD project was having problems with 8GBs on Windows, and when I upgraded to 16GBs my problems all vanished. The project was using 14 GBs when rendering.
I am not as irritated at the subscription model as some. I won’t store *anything* of work on any cloud, but the subscription model has been cheaper and automatically gives me updates of fixes and functionality. I think that’s a win for me, and obviously a win for Adobe.
Adobe’s suite, including the integration with AE and Audition has been great. One feature I really feel they need, that Vegas has, is the ability to burn a DVD on the fly from the main editing menu. Their ignorance on the need for DVDs for those of us in the field is something that has caused a lot of anger as they begin the faze out of Encore. I’ve found Audition to be much more valuable to me than Sony’s products, though they aren’t bad. I still deliver everything on DVD, even work I deliver to the web. That is still a couple of years away for the majority of us to leave dvds behind.
A small side note for Vegas “switchers” is that recently, in the middle of a project, had a drive on my RAID 5 fail. Windows 7 could not reliably read the sectors, and I had to go back to getting some footage off an archive. In order to take other work off the drive so I could install the new drive and reformat the RAID. I decided to see if the Mac could read the sectors of the NTFS drive and plugged it in. Oddly, I was able to salvage much more to the Mac than to the Windows 7 side. I don’t know whether it was a fluke or that the Mac OS did a better job of reading NTFS than Windows did (seems hard to believe). But there you have it.
I personally won’t go to FCPX as Apple’s abandonment of FCP users lost all trust I had in them to treat their customers as professionals, not consumers. I like their OS better than either Win7 and especially Win8.
Al
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Thanks John, really appreciate the input, but like Al said below, I need something that works on both OS’s….FCPX does not. I understand the CC issue, but it would be for my employee to deal with and not me, as I will continue to work in Vegas.
Really appreciate the insight!Scott Francis
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[Al Bergstein] “What are you using to run Windows on the Mac? After this current project I’m expecting to convert all my Windows stuff to my Mac with Parallels, but if there’s a better option before I begin, I’d love to know what it is.”
I’m using VMware Fusion 6.0. I hear Parallels Desktop is good too. It’s great to be able to run Vegas Pro on my Mac without having to reboot.
[Al Bergstein] “I personally won’t go to FCPX as Apple’s abandonment of FCP users lost all trust I had in them to treat their customers as professionals, not consumers.”
I have to agree that the switch was handled poorly. All Apple had to do was tell FCP editors that more professional features were coming. Instead they kept silent and editors jumped ship. I hope Apple learned their lesson.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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[Scott Francis] “I understand the CC issue, but it would be for my employee to deal with and not me, as I will continue to work in Vegas.”
Remind me never to work for you. lol. 😉
~jr
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That should have said “employer” not employee!!! LOL!!!
Scott Francis
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