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  • Parent tracks vs Nested Veg Files -PC Performence?

    Posted by Don Cobble on September 27, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    I am trying to do A Chroma Key Shot in one Cam1-Veg and Another Chroma Key Shot in CAM2 Veg and then bringing these 2 Veg files into my project to edit final program. My computer is laboring slow to let me edit.
    Can this same thing be done not using veg files but through parent tracks – meaning is that less load on computer? I am using the PC2 with specs below.

    PC 1
    I7 2.8 Ghz 8GB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000
    PC 2
    I7 3930K 3.2Ghz
    32 MB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000

    3-4 TB HD
    Vegas 10 64bit & Vegas 11 64Bit & Vegas 12 & Adobe Production Premium CS5.5.2 & Avid Media Composer 5.5

    Camera
    Sony EX1 shoot in 1920×1080 30P

    John Rofrano replied 12 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • John Rofrano

    September 27, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    I don’t think there is anything you can do to get around this. Chroma Key is just very compute intensive. Why don’t you just render an intermediary file instead of using nested projects with Chroma Key? It would be a lot easier to work with.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 27, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    The parent track thing is not gonna work in this situation.
    Either you be patient and work with the laboring of your system
    (.Veg files coupled with Chroma keying is gonna tug hard on your system)
    or you render out both of your chroma key shots individually to a
    video format and drop it back on the timeline for final render.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Don Cobble

    September 27, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Sir John or Steve,
    I have 5 Video tracks in Cam1 composite Chroma Key. I currently have a Cam1 parent and 4 children tracks hooked together. Is there a way that I can (now that I have that all set)cut to the Cam 2 Parent track – back and fourth without having to adjust each child track individually. Like doing multicam back and fourth between my to parent tracks?
    Thank You
    Don

    PC 1
    I7 2.8 Ghz 8GB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000
    PC 2
    I7 3930K 3.2Ghz
    32 MB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000

    3-4 TB HD
    Vegas 10 64bit & Vegas 11 64Bit & Vegas 12 & Adobe Production Premium CS5.5.2 & Avid Media Composer 5.5

    Camera
    Sony EX1 shoot in 1920×1080 30P

  • Don Cobble

    September 27, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Steve, Thank You, I have CineForm, Should I render to that? or another codec setting knowing I will bring it back into the timeline to then re-render the final product? The Final is for cable TV – DVD – and Web

    PC 1
    I7 2.8 Ghz 8GB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000
    PC 2
    I7 3930K 3.2Ghz
    32 MB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000

    3-4 TB HD
    Vegas 10 64bit & Vegas 11 64Bit & Vegas 12 & Adobe Production Premium CS5.5.2 & Avid Media Composer 5.5

    Camera
    Sony EX1 shoot in 1920×1080 30P

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 27, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Best to render each out to AVI Uncompressed or Quicktime Uncompressed (None),
    but if you want smaller file sizes you can render them as Quicktime
    Phot-jpeg, Animation or Motion-jpeg. Im not a fan of Cineform.
    Dont worry about losing quality due to rendering twice, its
    minimal, so its not visible to the eye.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Don Cobble

    September 28, 2013 at 1:30 am

    Steve one more question on uncompressed AVI how many gig will a 1 Hour clip be?
    Thank U
    Don

    PC 1
    I7 2.8 Ghz 8GB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000
    PC 2
    I7 3930K 3.2Ghz
    32 MB Ram
    Win 7 Pro 64bit OS
    PNY Quadro 4000

    3-4 TB HD
    Vegas 10 64bit & Vegas 11 64Bit & Vegas 12 & Adobe Production Premium CS5.5.2 & Avid Media Composer 5.5

    Camera
    Sony EX1 shoot in 1920×1080 30P

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 28, 2013 at 4:26 am

    lol, that would be VERY big… That would be bordering in the range
    of 110-120GB for you.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • John Rofrano

    September 28, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    [Don Cobble] “I have CineForm, Should I render to that?”

    Yes, CineForm would be the best codec to use if you don’t need to maintain the alpha channel. This is what ConeForm was designed to do (intermediate renders with no visible loss of quality) so absoltely use it if you have it. Sony MXF is also a good format to use for people who don’t have CineForm. If you need the alpha channel to be maintained use QuickTime PNG or Animation codec.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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