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copying particular effects from events
Posted by Grzegorz Kwiatkowski on April 18, 2013 at 10:05 pmIn my opinion Vegas has been missing this feature from the beginning and still there has been no improvement in this direction. Haven’t you dreamed about a simple option of copying a particular effect (with all its adjustments) from an event and pasting it on another event? I don’t mean copying all event properties (along with pan/crop), but one event fx, for example Sony Levels. This would be way more fast and intuitive than using presets.
Another great feature would be something analogical to audio buses. Wouldn’t be nice if we could create video fx buses and apply them on selected video events?
Maybe VAAST, Sony Production Assistant, Vegasaur or Excalibur have these features? Can anybody enlighten me?
Grzegorz Kwiatkowski replied 13 years ago 7 Members · 17 Replies -
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Steve Rhoden
April 19, 2013 at 12:38 amI understand what you mean, but most of what you are
describing is already possible in many of the plugins.Steve Rhoden
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Stephen Mann
April 19, 2013 at 3:26 amWouldn’t saving an FX chain do what you are asking for? Look for “Creating FX Packages” in the manual.
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Matt Carlson
April 19, 2013 at 5:26 amIt is possible to do with scripting if the plugins are OFX plugins. I just spent two days hammering my head against a wall because the scripting documentation is incomplete for OFX implementations but I finally stumbled upon the necessary syntax. I had a problem of requiring nearly a hundred different plugin color grade chains to be moved to a separate track’s events without messing with pan/crop etc. Now with one click I can move entirely different plugin chains from multiple selected events to the event on the track above it.
While I was doing this I was thinking about implementing it in an extension and what would be necessary. There are a few hurdles but not insurmountable ones. As far as I know the Vegas scripting still does not have access to the Windows/Vegas clipboard. Ferreting out what you need from a “copied” event is not possible which leads to these problems.
With a simple script when you select two events you can easily copy just the OFX plugin chain but there is the problem of identifying event A versus event B (with scripting A is always the first from the top of the project.) As I said this is not an insurmountable problem. A pop up box can be implemented to logically choose which event is the one to be source to be copied. Identifying a specific plugin of the chain with some kind of selection input (typing in a number, radial buttons, etc.) is also required if a full plugin chain is not what is wanted. Some of these problems are less difficult to conquer in extensions versus scripts because data can persist between button clicks in extensions where a single script is self contained.
Once the logic of identifying what is chosen and what is the target is figured out the rest is easy… and once again they have to be OFX plugins. Standard Vegas plugins when copied through scripting are just placed with default values and can not be accessed.
I do not know if any of the extension developers (VASST, Vegasaur) have implemented copying effects yet. It sounds like a good Fast App if you ask me.
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Grzegorz Kwiatkowski
April 19, 2013 at 5:45 amMatt,
to do simple color correction I mostly usy basic Sony plugins, so this is still a problem. Second thing, you managed to move whole plug in chains, not particular effects. It is still not perfect.
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Matt Carlson
April 19, 2013 at 6:06 amThe basic Sony plugins have been OFX plugins since version ten. So that is not a problem. I just mentioned it because scripting can’t manipulate other third party possibilities (although Sapphire Arts, Boris Continuum, etc are all OFX.)
The last portion of my post addressed “what could be” because I didn’t write it yet but it solves “perfectly” what you asked for.
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Grzegorz Kwiatkowski
April 19, 2013 at 6:10 amSometimes after applying fx plugin chain you start to mess up with adjustments, then you want to copy specific effects from this chain and you just can’t. This option is not the same thing.
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Stephen Mann
April 19, 2013 at 12:47 pmYou can save any individual FX setting for use on other events or projects. Just make your FX changes, then save the FX with a preset name of your choice. When you want to apply the exact same FX to another event, track or media clip, just select your preset from the dropdown menu.
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Grzegorz Kwiatkowski
April 19, 2013 at 1:12 pmSteve, I want to copy a specific fx between events. Creating presents is an option, but not ideal. In fact… far from ideal.
Sometimes you adjust fx after you apply them, so they bacome different from your preset and you want to copy them.
It’s strange Sony team hasn’t implemented this yet.
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Stephen Mann
April 19, 2013 at 1:35 pmso they bacome different from your preset and you want to copy them.
So save the new preset with a new name.
Steve Mann
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