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  • Sony Vegas 11 – exact settings to upload a 1080p HD video to YouTube

    Posted by Dave Stafford on July 6, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Hello

    I am new to HD and I’ve been trying to upload my first HD project to YouTube for two days now, and it fails/errors every time I try.

    I spent time ahead of time trying to figure out what the “best” settings are, but what is in the YouTube help and what is on the web is not in agreement, nor does much of the advice seem to go beyond Vegas 9.

    I have Vegas 11 – I am new to it, but I understand how to create movies, and I can set the settings any number of ways – if only I knew what would stop the errors.

    At first, I thought it was this “Fast Start” issue; I downloaded the “Fast Start” tool, ran it on my file – and it STILL errored.

    So now I am down to settings.

    I shot the video in AVHVC (or whatever that is called) HD, imported it into Vegas with no problem, added sound track and titles, and rendered the result. I’m at work now, but from memory, I selected a preset, which was for 1080p at 1920 X resolution, HD – and I then customised the audio (it’s a music video, so I want better quality) to an 44.1 khz AAC 320 kbps file.

    Nothing really unusual, but, each time I upload it, it just immediately errors – and gives NO DETAIL as to what the error is.

    I have spent time trying to read about, or watch videos about, what the settings should be – and I get back…confusion. One person says one thing, another another, and so on.

    I don’t care what they are, I just want a set of settings; specifically for Vegas 11, that I can TRY – I need the complete set, every step, so I can try to re-render my movie so it WILL upload to YouTube.

    I feel a little disappointed with a couple of aspects of Vegas 11: it advertises that you can upload directly to YouTube, but when I looked at that option, it gives you NO OPTIONS to manually adjust any parameters at all – they just UPLOAD IT, and expect me to blindly accept whatever blind parameters they are setting behind the scenes? Odd. I don’t go for that.

    I want to control the process; I want to make INTELLIGENT choices, based on what the settings SHOULD be, NOT depend on a blind wizard that will probably set things wrong and make me error yet again, and I am tired after 48 hours of “error with your video settings”.

    I also feel let down that Sony didn’t (apparently?) incorporate an option to set the “fast start” option as part of the export, I spent AGES looking for it, I searched for “fast start” and “fast start Vegas” and so on, and got NOTHING back until I searched for “MP4 fast start” which returned the custom tool.

    The fact that I would need to USE a second tool, when really, Movie Studio should be the be-all do-all video suite, well, I find that a bit disappointing to say the least. Unless someone can tell me “hey, the setting for fast start is HERE”…in Vegas 11???

    In any case: HELP !!!

    Can someone please publish a list of the exact set of settings that YOU USE, when you export a 1080 HD for upload to YouTube, so I can get this taken care of? I would so, so appreciate it.

    In the research I’ve done over the past 2 days, I’ve determined some basics which I hope you can confirm or deny:

    1) The audio and the video should be the same length

    VIDEO SETTINGS

    2) H.264 compression is recommended (I believe that is what I used)

    3) Frame rate 30 is preferred, 4 others are acceptable (I believe I used 29.97 per someone’s suggestion)

    4) Data rate = “automatic” – but that was for Quicktime – what is this in VEGAS?

    5) Key Frames = “automatic” – same, what is this in VEGAS?

    6) Frame reordering = No

    AUDIO SETTINGS

    1) AAC format

    2) Constant bit rate

    and this is the kicker

    3) Prepare for Internet Streaming = “Fast Start” – again, that was for a Quicktime set of settings, WHAT IS THIS IN VEGAS? or do I have to use the little application externally once I’ve rendered?

    Can you confirm these are correct, and provide any and all additional settings and steps I need to actually make this work?

    My ETERNAL thanks to all

    Cheers,
    Dave

    Daniel Decarli replied 14 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • Chrewnyle Ramid

    October 4, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    I hope you can get an answer to this question as I have been using vegas 9 pro and seems like no matter what settings I try, my rendered video continues to show in a quality MUCH LESS than HD – although it reads as an HD file. I need to know what settings to use. I am using a Sony HDR CX110 to shoot video and the settings on the camera have been set to HD 1080p but I can’t get the video to render in HD .. .

  • Dave Stafford

    October 5, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Hi

    Well, I have managed to do OK, I got someone to help me, and I now have settings that I can use in Vegas to create HD video reliably, and upload to YouTube, with good results.

    But this will be different for EACH PERSON. You need to consider many things, one, your camera, and what settings, what frame rate, etc…

    Then in Vegas, you want to match that frame rate (so – don’t film at 32 and then render Double PAL 50).

    But there are many different settings, unfortunately, I can’t just say “try this” – you have to keep trying.

    You won’t want to render to full HD for YouTube – the files will be too large, and they will just compress them anyway. So the best compromise is – make a GREAT HD video for yourself, in full 1080 HD. Make it look GOOD.

    Then, render it to a compressed format, either MP4 or wmv probably. It still is “shown” in HD, it still looks HD, even though it’s been compressed. YouTube will compress the heck out of it ANYWAY, so you will never get a “FULL HD” video up there – forget it!

    So – I can’t tell you much. I think most important is, use the same frame rate, if your camera is 50h/50i, then render at 50. If your camera is 32, render at 32. Don’t mix them up.

    Other than that – uh, I am not sure. Try to make the Render As settings as close to the settings of the camera as possible.

    I hope this helps a LITTLE. I learned the hard way, I would render, and upload – and it would look HORRIBLE. So I would delete. Change the settings, render, upload – it looks HORRIBLE. Delete again. Finally, with a lot of help from a lot of people, I started to get the settings “right”. But that’s only right for ME, I have a different camera to you, so my setting won’t neccessarily work for you.

    If I can answer any specific question, I will try.

    Oh yes – one thing you MUST do. You must make each completed, rendered video “Fast Start”. Go and download a small tool that does this. So now, the last step in my process is, when the video has rendered, before I do anything, I run the “Fast Start” tool on it/

    If you don’t do this, you WILL have audio/video sync issues on YouTube, so this COULD be part of the problem.

    I wish you luck, let me know if I can help – I will try.

    Dave at pureambient.com

  • Chrewnyle Ramid

    October 5, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Thanks for the info .. I am going look for fast start now.
    And I have to check the settings on the camera – I know I set it to HD1080p but I didnt look for anything about the frames —

    Can you take a look at the short clip? So far it shows up in 480p with the options of 1080p vieweing ..

    https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/artist_videos/595672?sel_video_id=8753011&autoplay=true

    but I still dont think it has the “strength” or quality of display that I see others have . .

  • Dave Stafford

    October 14, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Hi

    It won’t help me or you if I look at your clip – you will need to examine carefully everything – your camera settings, the settings in Vegas, and so on – and keep trying things until you render a video that looks and sounds RIGHT.

    Each camera is different, and Vegas itself must be set to “match” as well as possible.

    Looking at a video would mean nothing to me – I could not tell “what is wrong” by seeing it, in fact, I am no expert, I really know very little, except that your camera rate and your Vegas setting should match, you should use “Fast Start” – but other than that – you have so many settings.

    For example, is your camera interlaced or not? There are settings for this. My camera is not. So I have to turn interlacing on, and just from some advice I got, I use the setting “Blend”.

    But maybe yours is different. Maybe YOU need a different setting than I do.

    I know this is frustrating – I spent WEEKS before I could render a good video, and a video that looked good on YouTube. You might get it tomorrow, it might take 7 weeks of experimenting.

    If you have to, you can render the same clip with 20 different settings (take screen shots, number them “TEST No 1” etc. – and then you WILL find it…

    patience – luck – but I can’t really do much to help. wish I could….

    all the best

    dave

  • Daniel Decarli

    November 2, 2011 at 1:25 am

    I think I can help you. At “Render As…” Make sure that “match project settings” is checked. Under Sony AVC/MVC choose “AVCHD 1920×1080-60i” if that’s exactly what it appears. Then scroll down and go to “Customize Template…”. Change the Bit rate from 16,000,000 to 8,000,000(information: about 8,500,000 is the maximum that Youtube will allow your video to be after it is processed there). Now go to the Project tab and change the render quality to Best. When you are done changing settings save your template by changing its name from “AVCHD 1920×1080-60i” to “AVCHD 1920×1080-60i 8mbps” and clicking the “save template” button on the right (it looks like a floppy disk). Now when you see your template in blue click on the star on the left to make it your favorite so that you can find it easier. I would also recommend you to render just a region of your video just for testing purposes on Youtube. You can select a region on your video by selecting a point on the timeline and holding the shift key and then hold the right arrow until you select about 10 seconds or less of your video. These are not rules, just tips. You can see how many seconds you are selecting by looking to your right bottom of the screen. The third one from left to right is the one. If it shows like 00:00:03;22 it means 3 seconds and 22 frames that you have selected. And then to just render a selected region you need to got to “Render As…”, scroll down and check “render loop region only”. Now click render and upload your video to Youtube!
    Good luck! Read it carefully and you get it. It is not that hard. Have a good day.
    Jesus is the Lord!

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