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Premiere Pro and After Effect Workflow Question
Up to this date I’ve been doing most of my color correction, dissolves, effects and titling in Premiere Pro- what I’ve recently been reading about is that you should actually do your onlining in after effects to avoid compression and artifacts the NLE introduces.
I try to maintain the highest quality for whatever finished format I use- but am I actually shooting myself in the foot by exporting in premiere? Should all dissolves/color correction and effects be done in AE while the rough cut is assembled in Premiere?
Thanks for your help guys!
-Christian Shumway
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Most of the work I do is HDV footage shot on a Sony Z1. Adobe captures these as .mpeg (although it used to be captured as .avi in Premiere pro 1.5)
Currently I use Adobe media encoder to export the files as h.264 for the web, or as .mpg for DVD burning in encore.
-Christian Shumway
Project Manager
http://www.TurningLeafProductions.com
Christian.Shumway@gmail.com -
I’ve been wondering about capture cards- I have a high end Nvidia card for games/modeling but I assume I would need a specific video capture card. Any suggestions?
When you say re-render are you talking about exporting a completed project then reimporting that master to render out to a different format? I can see that losing quality- But am I loseing quality when I do color correction, render out a single shot to see it in real time (in the NLE), change it slighlty and render to see it again? Is that quality loss persistent even if I delete the effect and not use it? I’ve always thought quality was lost on the final export, not in the testing ground of the NLE’s timeline.
My current system is set up with a Raid 0- HDV doesn’t seem to slow it down to much.
Thanks for your continued advice,
-Christian Shumway
Project Manager
http://www.TurningLeafProductions.com
Christian.Shumway@gmail.com -
Okay- just wanted to make sure I wasn’t continuously degrading my work because of tweaking.
What codec would the capture card record my HDV footage in, if not mpeg? Premiere (cs3 at least) converts old .avi files to mpeg automatically (when put into a timeline a red render bar is over the clips)-hopefully it would avoid that if the source video is superior to mpeg.
Currently it looks like I should keep the edit down to timing in the NLE, and then load up into AE for dissolves/CC/effect’s work since the math seems to be better. Exporting my final master through AE to preserve as much as the quality as possible, while knowing that the more digital work that is done, the more lossy the end quality. Does that sound like a good workflow to preserve quality from start to finish? Ideally beginning with the highest quality source footage from a capture card. Unless these cards also help with the export/render?
Lot of good info you’ve given me Dave, thank you
-Christian Shumway
Project Manager
http://www.TurningLeafProductions.com
Christian.Shumway@gmail.com -
I know exactly what you mean. The only way that 32bpc color correction will work in Premiere is if you use and only use color finesse inside, then use dynamic link or copy paste sequence while both AE and Premiere are open.
One other option is rendering out full 4:4:4 16bit codecs such as Tiff(lzw off), avi 10 bit uncompressed, or some other huge hard drive hogging codec.
Other people may say, oh rendering out 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 is good enough, but after 5 renders, let’s compare chroma loss. AE seems to do a better job with rasterized Fonts, color, and more effects are 16bpc or higher.
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