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GOPro HD + Vegas 10 Plat + Bluray disks = what render?
Hi All,
Sorry for another ‘render’ question, but I just got Vegas 10 Platinum and I am so confused by the multitudes of rendering options. I don’t see one that specifies ‘GoPro’! LOLI’m on an I7 system, Win7 x64, 8gb ram, and loads of hard drive space. I plan on burning my creation onto a BluRay disk, dual layer 50gb if needed.
The GoPro is MP4 h.264 files, and I run the 1080 setting. In Vegas, I matched my project to the video files from the GoPro (and selected use this for all projects!). I’ve even converted them to Cineform Neoscene AVI files. (do I match to the Cineform AVI or original MP4 files?)
I’ve gone thru and edited my ‘movie’ – added the music, graphics, photos and so on. My plan is to make a Blu-Ray disk complete with menus, a slideshow, chapter selection, and even a production notes screen all within DVD Architect
Now comes my question (Finally!) – what render option do I use?!? I’ve made numerous test renders with a 1 minute loop from the movie. But good grief there are a lot of options!!! It’ll take me forever to test them all. I’ve read that MainConcept MPEG-2 is the one to use, another is Sony AVC. But then you get into 60i or 24p -then if you go into the CUSTOM button, even MORE options…. I-Frames, B-Frames, Field orders, constant rates, variable rates, two pass… my head hurts.
I’m good at shooting video, but this is driving me nuts. If anyone can shed some light for me I would GREATLY appreciate it. Help?
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Use Sony AVC with the Blu-ray 1920×1080-60i, 16 Mbps video stream template. Don’t change any settings. Alternately, you could use the MainConcept MPEG2 render type with the Blu-ray 1920×1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream template. It’s really up to you since your source was converted to Cineform you can go either way. Then render your audio as Dolby Digital AC3. You then feed the video and audio file to DVD Architect to make a Blu-ray disc. If you keep the file names the same (just with different extensions) DVD Architect will import the audio with the video automatically.
If course, since you bought Movie Studio, why don’t you just press the Make Movie button, select Burn it to a DVD or Blu-ray Disc, then select Blu-ray Disc and let Movie Studio take care of everything for you?
~jr
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Thanks… so making minor changes in the CUSTOM screens won’t do much I take it. Good to know. one thing tho – is there any difference between the file format AVC and M2TS selected in CUSTOM under AVC?
As far as the ‘make movie’ goes, I was under the impression that just burned the movie straight to the disk – I’d like the menus, slideshow and whatnot on my disk as well. Or am I wrong in that it just passes the project to DVD-A? Hmmm… might have to play with it.
Thanks… so the MainConcept MPG or Sony AVC are the choices… good to know.
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[Jim Sterling] “As far as the ‘make movie’ goes, I was under the impression that just burned the movie straight to the disk – I’d like the menus, slideshow and whatnot on my disk as well. Or am I wrong in that it just passes the project to DVD-A?”
It prepares the files needed for DVD Architect Studio and takes you there. That’s where you build your menus, etc. If you don’t have DVD Architect Studio installed, Make Movie will not work for DVD and Blu-ray.
~jr
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not sure, but does your gopro videos come up all messed up on the preview screen? check my last post, and if yours doesnt, can you tell me how to fix it? thanks
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[John Rofrano] “Use Sony AVC with the Blu-ray 1920×1080-60i, 16 Mbps video stream template”
The GoPro HD (I just got one for x-mas too!) shoots only progressive. Would you still use 60i if the source is progressive? I’ve never made a 1080p blu-ray before but I’m guessing you’d just manually change that and maybe up the bitrate to like 19mbps? If he’s shooting at 720@60p you’d render out a 720@30p blu-ray right?
Edit: Okay turns out blu-ray only supports 1080p at 24fps and supports 720@60p. I didn’t realize it wasn’t capable of 1080@30p.
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Sorry for another ‘render’ question, but I just got Vegas 10 Platinum and I am so confused by the multitudes of rendering options. I don’t see one that specifies ‘GoPro’!
The render is for the thing to want. You already have GoPro video (or, actually, Cineform video… it’s no long GoPro native video). What you want is Blu-ray… so you need to hunt for an acceptable Blu-ray format.
And yeah, there are many. Vegas does Blu-ray video in MPEG-2 or AVC via the pre-defined templates, and there are several video rates and resolutions supported by Blu-ray as well. The choice of the output depends on how long you video is, how much time you have to render, etc.
The two main choices, as John explained, are Main Concept MPEG-2 or Sony AVC. The AVC format, when well encoded, looks about the same as an MPEG-2 video taking twice the space… but it takes much, much longer to create. I often use MPEG-2 for videos under 1.5 hours, AVC for larger videos.. but there’s no reason you couldn’t use AVC for everything (Blu-ray also support VC-1, but Vegas/DVDA do not… VC-1 is in-between AVC and MPEG-2 in coding efficiency).
So, your GoPro records in 1080/30p or 720/60p. If you shot in 1080/30p, you can’t really render 1080/30p for Blu-ray, since that’s not a supported format. The usual solution is to render at 1080/60i. But if you’re really shooting sports video, you probably have it set to 720/60p — that’s what I use when I shoot soccer video (different cameras, but 60p is usually what you want for action). You can render 720/60p to Blu-ray in either AVC or MPEG-2. I have templates for this… don’t recall if I wrote them or they came along with Vegas, but it’s easy enough to create your own. The basic rule is to take another Blu-ray template, the closest you can find, and then tweak that just thing that’s different.
-Dave
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