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  • HD Plat 10.0 Multiple Edits and Rendering

    Posted by Betty Clark on November 4, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Hi All:

    In brief, I’m using the trial version of HD Platinum 10.0, and having trouble rendering a clean video. It’s not Vegas, I don’t think, but my editing style. I do a lot of jump-cut editing with many cuts even in a short clip. I like working with Vegas itself thus far, though.

    Here’s my problem, though, and maybe you can advise: The finished product is worse than choppy and beyond usable. Video is reduced to stills, and the music track stops and starts. There are approximately fifty to sixty or more edits in a minute and one/half of HD footage. Not all of my videos will have so many cuts, but I’d like to have that option in HD, if possible. I’m just not used to working with it.

    I’m really hoping to find a way around this, because I like editing with Vegas.

    Thanks for your advice in advance,
    Betty

    Betty

    Matt Crowley replied 15 years, 8 months ago 2 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Matt Crowley

    November 4, 2010 at 10:36 am

    If you’re working with a lot of HD video clips and/or large still images from digicams, Vegas will have a LOT of processing to do as it previews the video on the timeline. Are you saying that playing/previewing the project in Vegas is choppy, or playing a rendered project (the output video) is choppy. Maybe both? HD video is hard work even for a fast PC – particularly if it’s AVCHD format video.

    Vegas has some tricks to help the editing/previewing speed though. You can pre-render parts of your project that are particularly slow, you can set the preview quality to a low setting, disable external monitor preview, make sure the project settings match the input media format… search this forum and look at the manual for details.

    The sure-fire way to tell if your project is going to turn out well is to render it to a suitable video format. For HD output, try one of the HVD presets (MainConcept MPEG2) or AVCHD (Sony AVC) that matches your project and source media format.

  • Betty Clark

    November 4, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    Thanks for your reply, Matt. I feel like I’m in the wilderness.

    Yes, playing/previewing (AVCHD) is choppy in places, but it does play. The rendered product stops after the first few clips, and will play approximately three or four stills of ten or fifteen video cuts. The music stops and starts too. I know I’m throwing a lot at Vegas. This is a very fast-paced video with many cuts, some paced together quite closely.

    I tried one thing related to your reply. I thought it would be possible to copy the footage in short segments into new files (without the music track), render each segment, and continue that process to the end of the video. Then, I would place all of those rendered clips in the timeline of one file, include the music track, and render that. I couldn’t seem to copy the segments, though. I would highlight a few, then go to a new file and try to paste them into the timeline. The option for paste never came up, though. There was nothing to paste. I don’t know if there’s another way.

    The project settings do match the medial format, but I haven’t yet tried to preview in a lower quality setting. I’ll also disable external monitor preview.

    I’m disappointed because this video is time-sensitive, but I think that I’ll just have to change my editing style for future videos. I still like Vegas. I realize this has nothing to do with Vegas.

    Thank you again for replying, Matt.

    Betty

  • Matt Crowley

    November 4, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    What’s your computer spec like? On my 3GHz Core2Duo desktop PC things get sluggish with even a handful of AVCHD clips and minimal effects. AVCHD is a very demanding format – Vegas has to spend a lot of its time decoding the video, never mind applying effects and edits.

    Are your source video files on an internal hard drive? Editing will probably be very sluggish using any external drive.

    You can copy/paste between separate projects, but you need to have both projects open at the same time.

    You say the rendered output stops after a few clips/stills? Make sure you have the entire timeline of your project highlighted (double-click on the space just above the timeline ruler) before rendering, or remember to un-check the “Render loop region only” option at the bottom of the Render dialog. The render should always come out OK with no jumps/hiccups unless these are actually part of the project.

  • Betty Clark

    November 4, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    My specs: Core i7 1.60 GHz
    Internal hard drive: Yes

    “You can copy/paste between separate projects, but you need to have both projects open at the same time.” a-HA! Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

    I highlighted the project, and un-checked “Render loop region only.” Then I rendered. It’s still the same, unfortunately. It does skip from still to sill, but the music starts and stops.

    Oy! Oh well. Matt, this video is time-sensitive, and I can’t believe it, but I’m just going to play it in preview and record that with my camcorder. It’s for You Tube, and my YT friends will cut me some slack. That will just be a straight shot – no edits, so I should be able to render that easily enough. It’s unbelievable that I’m going to resort to this tactic, but I know I can make it work. I’ll just tone down the editing in future videos.

    Rats! I love jump cuts and a lot of them. It just isn’t going to fly in HD.

    Hey, you’re a nice person for jumping in to advise, so thanks. I appreciate such rapid notice. Anyway, I’m getting Vegas HD 10.0. I’m just using the trial version but I like working in the Vegas environment, so I’m going to spring for it.

    Betty

  • Matt Crowley

    November 5, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Not sure what’s up there… maybe you can post a video render on Youtube that shows the problems you’re encountering? Vegas might choke on a complex timeline during preview but the rendered output should always be smooth.

    I’ve never had a problem with audio stuttering or dropouts. What format is your music track in? WAV, MP3? Perhaps you can try temporarily deleting the music clip and/or track to see if that helps preview or render.

    You PC sounds like it should be fine for all this.

    When you’ve got time, try a simple project with just a few clips on one track with simple cuts from one to the next and render it out. If even that causes problems then there may be some other issue.

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