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September 11, 2007 at 4:04 pm in reply to: standard rate 2 camera 30 min live performance projectMark–
Thanks. I did feel that sometimes the videographer did shoot perhaps too tight but he captured the emotion and in those clips I used a cross dissolve or luminance map dissolve to move from the close to the wide shot.
I will look at the project again with this comment in mind– ” Set a frame and let the dancers define the space inside that frame. ”
He shot in 30fps and I am in 29.97 sequence– a post on cow said that fcp will adjust to it. I will also place it into 16 X 9 and see what happens. I really apprecate the dialogue!
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September 11, 2007 at 3:58 pm in reply to: standard rate 2 camera 30 min live performance projectHi Craig,
Thanks very much for your reply and for describing your *process* for the dance projects you have worked on.
I searched endlessly on youtube for dance peices– specifically to see how editors worked with transitions– — found some, shall I say interesting “dance” projects but nothing that would help me. I did not find the PBS Dance in America ones– I will search again. The B cam was so beautiful– I read a post regarding editing here or somewhere else and I did feel a true responsibility to do the best cut I could– as the dancers , coreography, and lighting were amazing.
I did exactly the process you mentioned– working in multicam letting it play out– hitting the m key when it felt right, then using the roll tool to adjust the A/Bcuts. Next time I think I will watch the A cam by itself and then the B cam by itself first before doing that step. I found fantastic results with the luminance mapping transition as the dancers were surrounded by black often, in spotlight. In some places I let the music/beat determine the placement of my cut.
The biggest challenge was defining the narrative of the four peices in the project, learning the coreography, being sure to show repeated gestures, and then showing the narrative of the peice without interfearing. I wonder what is better– to show close up more or the wide shot. I leaned towards the close up, as this showed the emotion and energy of the dancers. I threw the A and B cam up on my website for The coreographer– thought this would be helpful — so she could tell me specific parts of the peice she would like. I wonder if editors do this– before getting to work to ask the coreographer, theatre director, etc to pinpoint specific clips before they get going on the edit. So different than the skeleton of a script to work from. On one hand I have enjoyed 100 percent the creative freedom– however, my aesthetic might not be hers. I also tried to work with almost a mathematical formula going from A to B to B to B to A– but I got a little annoyed and constricted by this.
The Budget? You are not going to be happy with the *one day* flat rate I accepted for this week and a half long project. Friend of a friend, associated with my graduate school, etc. I asked cow about this for future projects. When she asked me my rate she said she had asked the camera guy how long he thought it would take to edit the project and he said a day. Maybe he was thinking about *his* day– not the editor’s! If I get the guts up I will post it on demo reels forum to get feedback from you all.
Thanks again.
vv
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July 26, 2007 at 5:58 am in reply to: on average how long would it take an editor to l/d 7 dv tapes and locate selectsThanks for your reply– yes, log and digitize. The task was to find specific topics addressed in interviews and bts footage, and insert them into separate sequences per topic. The goal of course is to be as swift as possible, but not at the cost of missing audio selects. I was able to do ths task in 10 hours– what helped was watching the footage while logging the entire 60 min, taking notes, and then once the log/capture was complete of the full 60 min, scrubbing though the clip and placing markers on the clip, naming the markers per topc, then inserting the audio clips into it’s specfied sequence. I am interested in hearing about other work flow modes–such as– do others ever watch the full 60 min w/o capturing, write down timecode, log thse specific clips, and then do a batch capture? What is the most efficent procedure? I found mine was good– especially after comparing my time to your estimate– but I am interested in hearing your thoughts on this. I want to be fast. Also– when selecting audio clips for editors– if they do not specify– is it best/industry standard to leave a few seconds before and after the select– or when the clip is played– the audio begins right away? Thanks!! videovideo