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Not a good time for good audio.
So they are all sitting around the table. Please provide a lot more detail.
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How many auditors asking questions?
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Hello LB and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.
How many speaking auditors?
Will the teacher be at the narrow or wide side of the table?
Will there be any use of PA speakers to amplify what’s being spoken?
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Hello Chuck and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.
Maybe……
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The TASCAM DR60D is also a great way to capture sound for the mk iii.
Even though it’s a mixer and recorder, it’s line output works much the way the Sound Devices Mix Pre D does and it’s a lot less expensive. ($349) More here.
https://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/2013/10/tascam-dr-60d-four-track-digital.html
Nick and I didn’t have time to get into that, but I did the work previously with local DP Rick Diamond and found the DR60D and mk iii made acceptable 16 bit files on the camera. No double record required. The DR60 D is a bit of a battery hog. You could choose to use the DR60 D to double record or to feed the mk iii.
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Craig,
If it sounds echoey then you have reflected sound. This is not brain surgery.
Sound bounces off of hard, flat surfaces until it runs out of energy.
Find ’em, fix ’em.
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Yeah, they’re wrong unless they’re using water or some fluid.
The world is a lot less precise with its words these days. For example, adverbs have almost completely been taken over by adjectives.
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::the sword of the vocabularian comes down from the sky:: 🙂
Dampen means to get something wet. The word to use is damp.
Inside you need a balance of absorption and diffusion. Too much absorption and the place is dead and a pain to work in.
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Craig,
What I said was blankets won’t help with noise abatement. Noise abatement is keeping outside sounds from getting in to your recording. The same is true for foam. If someone’s outside with a lawn mower, blankets or foam won’t stop that.
There are two aspects; noise abatement and acoustical treatment. Using acoustical treatment to try and fix noise abatement problems won’t work.
Blankets and foam are for acoustical treatment.
You need D-I-D (Density-Isolation-Density) to block outside noise. Two walls (or other dense barriers) that are isolated from each other and do not touch each other in any way. e.g. nails and screws.
I floated 1 inch slabs of slate on my window well rims and isolated them from the rims with silicon caulk. I used the same caulk to keep the slabs from touching the exterior wall of the house. So, Density-Isolation-Denisty. It keeps the outside noise from getting in to my studio. It does nothing for in studio acoustics.
Make sense now?
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Mr. Watson,
Welcome to Creative Cow!
Thanks for your kind remarks. This was shot in my audio studio. As such, there’s damping and reflection control at work. The room’s not dead, but it’s tight; a combination of absorption and diffusion. That muslin backdrop also helps knock the bounce down. It’s 24 feet long. I have it just off of two walls, clipped to the ceiling grid.
Yes, both CMC641 in a Schoeps stereo bar just out of frame, both over Shuviel on the right. Out front a bit with one Schoeps pointed straight down and the other pointed mostly down but angled to camera left enough to pick up Josh’s guitar on camera left. I set them while listening to the two warm up and made the choice to leave both over Shuviel and angle one to catch Josh’s guitar. I tried it. In my headphones it sounded like it worked.
It’s very important that the playing and singing levels match because this approach doesn’t allow for much in the way of mixing.
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