[Ty Ford]

Hi Folks,

Makes me really nervous to set and forget. I ride gain with one or two mics with as many channels.
Set and forget means a lot more work in post with some folks.

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[Ty Ford]

Hello Adam and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

What console do you have now?

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Hello Tom and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

What college?

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[Ty Ford]

Hello Alan and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum

“soft high thin” Hmm, I’m guessing it’s real “roomy.” You could post ca lip somewhere and let us know where it is so we can hear it, but my guess is you’re pretty hosed. There really is no filter or processsor that can take away room sound from a camera mic.

You can try to roll of the top a bit ’cause a lot of room sound has reflections. Try notching the 1kHz to 3 kHz up a bit. A lot of voice energy is in that area.

Sorry for your pain.

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[Ty Ford]

Hello Daniel and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Rodney has given you some good advice. I will only add that I get the best results when the speakers are mounted at ear height from the position I’m usually going to be. They are angled in slightly so I’m on-axis with the tweeters.

Room placement is important. Putting speakers in a wall-wall or wall-ceiling corner accentuates the bass frequencies and is usually not a good idea. I enjoy de-spooking rooms. When done right, my clients can mix a lot more quickly and accurately.

I don’t care if the speakers are active or passive. Each of my workstations has two sets of speakers; main and smaller. This allows me a second perspective. You need to have that to check your mixes.

In my favorites list are Myers HD-1, Genelec 1030a, the equivalent sized ADAM, K+K 0110, the 824 Mackie. For some of these, you may want a subwoofer. Since Rode took over Event, I expect there will be some changes in their line, but I haven’t heard what they’ll be offering. I’m headed out to Las Vegas this weekend to hear the new line.

The JBL LSRs have improved since they first came out, but I haven’t had the chance to hear them other than at conventions. I like the idea that they have a room correction system, but I don’t know how well it works.

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[Ty Ford]

Hi Jan,

So that’s a different problem than this one?

For the past three days, I’ve been on set with a project shooting with
the HVX200, which writes onto P2 cards. We were using a 16GB card
when I encountered this problem. I was monitoring audio from camera
via a breakaway cable plugged into my Sound Devices mixer. I was NOT
using any wireless. Every time we rolled on this particular card,
there was a very low-level, random yet constant beeping in my
headphones. While trying to troubleshoot, we played back the take (so
easy to do with this camera!) and I could hear the same low-level
beeping on playback, as well. We only had this problem with one of
our three P2 cards. We fixed it by reformatting (erasing) the P2
card.
Luckily, it was NOT the camera, it was the card, and you should try
switching cards or reformat the card, which takes about a minute. You
can even dump the card down to a laptop before reformatting, in case
the take was good for picture and camera really wanted to keep it.
I’m not sure how common this problem is, but suffice it to say that
when shooting on P2, I’m going to crank my headphones way up every
time we start a new card to listen for the low-level beeping.
Also, this is REALLY odd, but I ONLY could hear the beeping when using
my external mixer. While troubleshooting, I switched over to the
camera mic and tried rolling on that, and I didn’t hear any beeping
there. This could be related to the fact that P2 cards by default
record audio into FOUR channels (stereo camera mic and external mics)
when you have external mics plugged in, but (I think) only onto TWO
channels when there are no external mics present. Not sure how that
would alleviate a bad card. (Maybe I just couldn’t hear the beeping
because the internal mic is so crappy!)
Long story short, try reformatting or swapping out the P2 card.
And thank goodness for camera departments that allow audio a few
minutes to troubleshoot on set!

Or this…

Michael Clark
I had this happen also on a recent gig. 2 hvx200’s being feed by zaxcoms. It only appeared on 1 camera. I had thought it was the Zaxcom(rental), but clearly that was not the issue. We were rolling double system, so we didn’t bother tracking it down thoroughly. The noise WAS recorded in my instance. But not all the time. Which I originally thought it was RF issues, since it didn’t happen all the time. Same clicking sound, very fast. If anyone wants to hear it, shoot me an email, and I’ll send you something short. Yet another reason to keep our recorders working, and not trust cameras to record our audio:) Mike
Aug 6 2007, 6:23 pm

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On Aug 6, 6:23 pm, Michael Clark wrote:
> I had this happen also on a recent gig. 2 hvx200’s being feed by
> zaxcoms. It only appeared on 1 camera. I had thought it was the
> Zaxcom(rental), but clearly that was not the issue. We were rolling
> double system, so we didn’t bother tracking it down thoroughly. The
> noise WAS recorded in my instance. But not all the time. Which I
> originally thought it was RF issues, since it didn’t happen all the
> time. Same clicking sound, very fast. If anyone wants to hear it,
> shoot me an email, and I’ll send you something short.
> Yet another reason to keep our recorders working, and not trust
> cameras to record our audio:)
> Mike

Exciting news! Soundriven’s (or his son’s) advice turned out to be
spot on. The HVX I shot on today actually had both issues described
here – the rapid clicking as well as a high-pitched beep. Now that I
think of it, the high-pitched beep was present on the 16GB card and
the clicking was on the 8GBs. I haven’t heard back from the first
project on whether it’s showed up in FCP yet.
Both issues were resolved by putting the P2 card in slot 2. Reminds
me of how mysterious PCI card issues could sometimes be resolved by
switching them to a different slot on the motherboard (PC users,
anyone?).
The DP’s theory is that it’s an error with the new drivers everyone’s
just had to install in order to use the 16GB cards. He said he knew
someone to at Panasonic he could notify, so maybe we’ll get some
feedback.
Thank you all, and especially Soundriven – I owe you all a drink. Let
me know if you’re ever in NY!

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Hope so, thanks.

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[Ty Ford]

Thanks for stepping in Jan,

I was busy earlier today passing a kidney stone. (TMI, I know!)

Wasn’t there also something about certain P2 cameras that beeped if larger memory cards were used?

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[Ty Ford]

Lots of ambient noise and no head turning.

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[Ty Ford]

nope. a bump is a bump.

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