[Ty Ford]

[John Moore] “1) Will the self noise of the CK93 (17 dBA) & CK94 (22 dBA) be a disqualifying factor for spending the roughly $425? If so- maybe I should just wait until I can afford something like the Sennheiser MKH-60/MKH-30 combo (like THAT’S gonna happen!).

2) If I do go with the more affordable AKG CK93/CK94 combo, am I going to be able to use my Wendt X3 3-channel mixer/preamp to get the correct M/S output (channel 1 = left, 2 = center, 3 = right) or am I going to have to pick up an M/S decoder? If so- can anyone suggest an affordable unit? I’ve emailed Peter Engh regarding his Sonic Orbit, and I’m hoping it isn’t priced out of my reach.
“

Hello John and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Why do you want to M/S record?

I’d want to try the figure of eight to see how much selfnoise there is. There is the MKH 418S. You need to power both capsules to get one to work. It sounds a lot like a 416, with a slight extension in the top end.

Do you want to monitor in M/S? If so you do need to decode. Call Buzz Turner at Turner Audio in CT. He’ll fix you up. Tell him I suggested you call.

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Ty Ford

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Benjamin,

it will likely not survive a Rugged Guerillafilm and during its short life it will make you unhappy.

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.: SERVICE BULLETIN :.

BP4025 & AT8022 Stereo Microphones

A Service Bulletin has been issued on the Audio-Technica BP4025 and AT8022 Stereo Microphones.

Due to a production wiring error, the output of both channels of some of these microphones is out of phase with industry convention. The microphones exhibit no problems when used individually; their problems occur when used together with other microphones.

Audio-Technica will repair affected microphones at our expense.

Please contact the Audio-Technica service department at (330) 686-2600 or repair@atus.com for instructions on how to return your BP4025 and AT8022 microphone(s) for repair.

Identifying Affected Microphones
BP4025
This Service Bulletin applies only to BP4025 microphones identified with any of the following date codes: 0844, 0850, 0851, 0852, 0904, 0907

The BP4025 date codes are located on a sticker attached to the XLR connector at the bottom of each microphone. Note: If your BP4025 microphone’s date code is marked with a green dot, or is a different number from the numbers listed above, it does not require service.

AT8022
This Service Bulletin applies only to AT8022 microphones identified with any of the following date codes: 0840, 0843, 0848, 0904, 0909, 0921

The AT8022 date codes are located on a sticker inside the microphone’s battery compartment. Note: If your AT8022 microphone’s date code is marked with a green dot, or is a different number from the numbers listed above, it does not require service.

Please know that we profoundly regret this error and are very sorry for any inconvenience to you.

This Service Bulletin was posted on July 28, 2009.

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Gord,

Call countryman. Talk to Rosa.

Say HI for me.

Ty

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Gordon,
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Yes. I use the dead cat also on my Schoeps cmc641, over top of the B5D foam filter for outside work in moderate wind.

I like Countryman B6 (hard to see) and EMW mics. If you know which wireless you’re going to get. Order the Countryman with a “link” so you can go hardwired XLR OR to a transmitter.

The Sanken COS-11 is also a good sounding lav.

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Ty Ford

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Rob makes a good point.

I have “consulted” on jobs where the problem was something silly in the playback system and because no one knew what the source SHOULD have sounded like, no one complained.

Geoege, are you doing anything special to export the audio? A separate audiostream export that is then recombined with the video. Are you playing back over the same system you are editing on?

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Ty Ford

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Hello Gord and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Basically what you’re asking is what throwing $500 at your audio setup will do. You don’t say anything about a boom or wind protection, so any mic you get will be a problem.

I’d get one of these: https://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/af0ced13084351f0/index.html

and use it with a boom or pistol grip.

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Ty Ford

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[george bonilla] “But, I am having to use multiple tracks of the same thing to bring the audio up in almost everycase. If a character says “how are you” I am taking the one track and duplicating it and laying it below to bring levels up. Probably not the best way but getting the actors together will be impossible. If I center pan several of the same tracks am I still inviting phasing? I had a problem with that last year on a different project. Would that have caused my original problem. Some lines missing panned to the left. While all others were panned to the right or both right and left? Thanks again and you have already told me what I originally need to know. I am learning more all the time.
“

George,

And thanks for helping everyone here learn by your participation.

What editing program are you using? Most allow for audio level changes. Doubling the track will also work but doesn’t give you much control.

Centering tracks makes the cancelation from multiple mics most noticeable. You can sometimes cheat by panning the problem tracks outward a bit, but if the audio is EVER heard in mono, you’ll get it.

In fact, you should listen in mono during production to make sure you do have mono compatibility.

Don’t know how to respond to your old problem. Too many possibilities.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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George,

After reading Peter’s thoughtful post, it occurs to me that you should talk to the director to find out what his/her intent was.

If the dialog is split tracked (with one voice on each track) and hasn’t been checker-boarded, you probably will get phasing. Checkerboarding is removing Actor B’s track when Actor A is speaking and vice versa.

You have to be a little cautious or the sound can shift too dramatically from one actor to the other. One way to mask that is by adding a third track of room tone.

Check with the director to see what his/her plans are.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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[Ty Ford]

Hello George and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Dialog goes in the center, mostly. Stereo music splits left and right.

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Ty Ford

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