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[Nigel Thompson] “Everyone needs to chill. and if then u dont like it just buy something else i really dont see the need for all the rant and rave”
I think part of the ranting is that while they have appeared to address some complaints with previous versions, it seems that many have not been addressed at all in favor of ‘eye candy’.
The reason this is offensive is that many have spent big money on the software in previous versions, and expensive hardware to run that software. And that same software has several advertised core features that version after version don’t work as advertised, or are buggy.
It has the feel of a car with a great paint job, plush interior and killer sound system, that regularly won’t start.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Michael Gissing] “The promising thing is the fact that it is a new build, 64 bit and is sorting some fundamental workflow problems. The look is nice. I have always argued for darker skins on every audio edit system I have used. Combined with dedicated controllers, I find long days of editing are easiest with proper ergonomics and darker screens. FCP’s current look is not good. I mostly work in Color and love the darker interface. This new timeline look has promise.”
It will be interesting to see how much problem this new build will be for plugins, and controllers.
I’m with you on the dark interface. I’m not a fan of the node, at least not for editing. It would be nice to have a choice of traditional UI, and/or light dark.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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Wow. You really told me.
Don’t forget the Caps Lock next time.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Phil Balsdon] “The beginning of the presentation of FCP-X Apple made a big point about the high end professional market users of FCP, Coen brothers etc. They absolutely have to make Final Cut Pro the best and most professional application out there for professionals, and the cheapest.”
But remember this is the same Apple that has continuously pushed nesting, which doesn’t work as advertised. Roundtripping to Color and STP, which doesn’t work as advertised. Media Manger which is convoluted and doesn’t work as advertised. And this is the same Apple whose upgrade instructions are wrong and those that follow them end up with a ‘crash-o-matic’ system.
When I here Apple talk, all I hear is ‘Charlie Brown’s Teacher’, wot, wot wot.
They had a room full of professional users, and didn’t have a Q&A.
What does that tell you?
This may be a great product, or a dud. But I’m not going to take Apple’s word that it’s great.
We’ll see what the first couple of months on the forums are like after the release.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Craig Shields] “I wouldn’t be so quick to call someone a Fan Boy because they can see the value in something you can not.”
No, I called people fan boys for being under the influence of the Reality Distortion Field and ‘thumbing down’ legitimate dissenting opinions and flaming those that would be skeptical of the all mighty Apple.
And the things I think are of most questionable value are:
– Non destructive color balance on ingest
– Stabilization on ingest
– Audio cleanup on ingest
– One click to match color between clipsIf material is properly shot in the first place, these features are superfluous.
Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Craig Shields] “iMovie Pro? Wow. We didn’t watch the same demo.”
Demo? How about just looking at the touted features.
I think Phil Hawes hit the mark with this post:
“From what I read of the reports of the demo of the new Final Cut X, the new features demonstrated are targeted towards the amateur video maker with a camcorder or DSLR. Features like stabilization, rolling shutter correction, noise cancellation, and audio sync, all supposedly happening on import, are targeting users who have basic production equipment problems. These are all features to compensate for amateur errors. A lot of these tools are problematic and not what a professional is asking for.Nor does the professional want a new “event list” , filmstrip viewers, a new iMovie like trim editor, or pop up color correction.
The only feature here that any professional would want is 64 bit and multi-threading and not so they could edit H.264 natively in an iMovie like environment or have a no transcoding workflow. A 64 bit multi-threaded Final Cut 7 would have satisfied most people and taken away a lot of headaches.
If the demo had been targeted towards professionals the following features may have been shown: better Media Management tools, improvement for filters (10 bit), a better Compressor interface, better integration with Color, and perhaps Motion working in 10 bit with more finesse.”
So here are some of these dubious ‘features’.
– Non destructive color balance on ingest
– Stabilization on ingest
– Audio cleanup on ingest
– Smart collections – like smart folders
– Clip connections, primary and secondary media locking together
– Single keystroke nesting
– Compound clips – collapse clips into a single clip
– Inline precision editor – simplifies trimming of clips
– Automatic control of number of tracks – add and go when needed
– One click to match color between clips
– Color & Soundtrack now in FCPX
– iMovie like filmstrip view
– Color & Soundtrack now in FCPXThe real telltale sign is all the things people have actually been posting about needing fixed since 6.0 that seemed to be swept under the rug, in favor of pushing features aimed at ‘auto iris’ shooters.
I noticed a lot of fan boys have been ‘thumbing down’ and flaming anyone not under the Reality Distortion Field. Grow up.
Many of us out here are so underwhelmed, we’re not ‘whelmed’ at all by this announcement. We are certainly not stopping you from downloading this at 12:01 on day one if that makes you happy.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Steve Connor] “Are we really going to have two months of people constantly posting in every thread that Apple have abandoned professionals, based on this brief sneak peak with no real details? You can’t make a judgement based on what we’ve seen so far.”
All I can say is you only get one chance to make a first impression, and I’m assuming Apple knows this. It looks like 64 bit iMovie Pro is the impression they wanted to give.
So, yeah I (or you) can make a judgment on what we have seen so far.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Paul Roper] “Also, people get used to an interface – it really is very annoying when a software vendor moves something you click on hundreds of times per day to another location for no apparent reason. It’s like a car manufacturer deciding to put the accelerator on the left and the steering wheel under the seat because it looks nicer.”
That is right on target. Not only do people get used to control interfaces, but with most successful designs form follows function. Don’t you just love when two of the most used ‘buttons’ are on opposite sides of the screen?
At one time the major controls of cars were not standardized. The current layout evolved from people learning what did, and did not work.
Motorcycles reached their standard control layout much later. It’s pretty easy to come across a bike with the clutch/brake and brake/shifter/kick starter controls on opposite sides from what is now the ‘norm’. The thing is that when you run into one of these bikes, they are all brands that did not make it and fell into obscurity.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Keith Hamm] “The new interface had me reaching for my barf bag. Still lots of very unanswered questions. If I was a FCP only shop looking at this demo I’d be VERY nervous right now about the money I have invested in a FCP pipeline. Shake anyone?
What of TRIM? What about a COLLABORATIVE PROJECT ENVIRONMENT? SERVER BASED TECHNOLOGY? And MEDIA MANAGEMENT? Weakest parts of FCP I can tell you first hand, the lack of media management in FCP is an assistant’s nightmare. I’m dealing with it on a daily basis.
Oh but it will sync the sound for you. Have you seen what it can do with iChat and this magnetic timeline?
So lame but we’ve come to expect consumer products now from Apple. I hope Avid is paying attention. They are more than long overdue on their own full re-write.”
Keith,
I agree . One part of the new interface I did like is that it’s dark. That is a problem for the current UI. It would be nice if the biggest font size for the UI could have a bigger range. I hate wearing reading glasses when I’m editing. Not everyone that uses FC is a 20-something with 20/20 vision.
Media Manager isn’t completely broken, but it certainly could have some huge improvements. You hit some other weak areas. Here are some others that seemed to have been swept under the rug.
Nesting has never worked as advertised, and causes more problems then it solves.
FXScript. A great, but underused function. No mention of still having this feature.
Video Scopes accuracy has always been lacking.
Timecode. It would be a great thing to have the ability to alter source TC’s. I know this can cause problems, but it would be a welcome option to fix broken/wrong code.
And like you, I’m sarcastic on the syncing sound for you thing. A basic editing function. The ‘feature’ seems to be aimed at the ‘johnny-come-latelys’.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Rafael Amador] “Now I know that I have FC for at least another 10 years.
I don’t understand so much concern around.”The concern is a lot of folks (including myself) use the entire suite of apps, not just FC. So far in reviewing the list of features and thinking about all the unanswered questions, I’m not inclined to reinvent my wheel.
Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…