Ryan Elder
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Okay thanks, I considered using the stabilizer, but I want to do a reveal in a large room, really fast. I can’t run fast enough to do the reveal.
This is why I considered using the lens to do a snap zoom cause the lens can pull back a lot faster than a stabilizer operator can run.
Basically I want to start out on an actor, and then zoom back really far to reveal a whole large room. If I pull back on the stabilizer instead, it just feels too long to get the whole large room in frame.
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Okay thanks, and yes I am going for realistic. But when yous real elements and 3D models, what do you mean? Are you saying I should get a real white police looking car, and then put labels on it in post with photoshop?
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Oh okay. I am not going for a hand held look like Paul Greengrass at all. I just used him as an example cause of the zooms.
But Rise of the Planet of the Apes used at least one snap zoom and was not a hand held style at all. I actually only wanted to use the snap zoom once, and that was it. Not in the video you saw, I was just practicing the zoom there.
I was going to use it to a quick shocking reveal during a suspense scene, where a character walks into a room, is stunned at what he sees, and then we snap zoom back to a quick reveal, so we get the feeling of speed on his reaction.
That was the only time I was going to use a snap zoom, so would be it bad, if I were to just use it that one time?
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The lens zooms were done on a tripod.
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Another example is Paul Greengrass who uses quick zooms all the time in his movies, and his movies are not considered to be going for cheese either.
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But lots of movies still use the occasional snap zoom and are not trying to be cheesy though. Rise Of The Planet of the Apes had a snap zoom in the scene with the SWAT officers assembling on the bridge. And that wasn’t going for cheese, was it?
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Okay thank you very much for the advice :).
Now you say that the police have a problem with impersonating a police car, but should have no problem with a white car with lights on it and what not. But I don’t think that just white would be enough, and the car would actually have to say police on it, as well as some other things, in order for the audience to buy it, won’t they?
And I would like some other police cars at the scene, but instead of using a real ones for the other parts, can I just have forced perspective then, since no one gets in and out of the other cars?
What about a police road block? Can I show an actor in his car approaching it, but the road block is just forced perspective, and isn’t really there, as long as no officers get out of the car, and area already out?
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Okay thanks, I understand by what you mean about the zoom looking unnatural but is that bad? A lot of times it was being used to zoom slowly into faces to convey emotions well into the 80s, and people didn’t have a problem with it back then. Is it wrong to adapt an old style, if it worked for back then with people?
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Nope, I never use auto ISO and always manually set it. But it still changes exposure while zooming even if the ISO is locked.
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Now you say that models don’t look convincing enough, but I got the idea from film riot, where they did it with a model helicopter here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To0Cnm2kriE
Does that not look real enough?
Also, when I asked for advice on how to do things before in after effects, the responses before were do it for real and to forget vfx. Is relying on vfx really that bad, that after effects should not even be used for many things then?
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