Rob Mackintosh
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Yes more control would be good.
What if Apple allowed you to pin your clip or secondary storyline to a lane i.e keep it in a fixed position in vertical space?
Would this get around the trackless-ness without breaking the new timeline paradigm?
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Mark, I struggled to read through my original post, perhaps a little too much detail!
In my experience compound clips within projects are problematic, whether created in the timeline or within an event. I agree, by opening and editing your event clips in their own timeline FCPX is treating them like compound clips.
T.Payton has this clip on You Tube illustrating how compound clips grow project size and bog FCPX down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRIeTZ-RNzc
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My guess is it’s the markers. Each instance of your two clips in the timeline will contain a reference to the original markers. This seems to bloat the FCPX project file and slow things down. See my experience here: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/344/5732
If you still have the original project file export XML, open in a text editor and see how many marker references there are.
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meant to say: “skim through the clip in the event browser”
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This may work: put the raw footage in a compound clip in an event, follow your same process. Once you have the edit list back skim through the event marking those ranges as favorites. Select favorites, paste into a project. Break apart compound clips to get back to raw footage.
IMHO Apple should add the event browser functionality to the project library, and projects should be able to contain more than one sequence without nesting.
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The workaround, if you want to work this way, would be to have each large sequence in a separate event as a compound clip, referencing media in other events. I’ve only tested this in a limited fashion, but it seems to keep the event file size under control. You would want limit to each event to one compound clip.
I created two identical sequences (4 clips, cross dissolves, generator, on primary storyline, one title connected) one in a compound clip within an event, the other as a project.
I was adding media from another event. The .fcpproject and .fcpevent files ended up around the same size, and increased by a similar amount as each edit was made.The fcpxml was identical, apart from the “project” uid, the location of the file, the “sequence” tag was replaced by “clip” in the Event and it had a name attribute.
By changing the location from Final Cut Projects to Final Cut Events and replacing the “sequence” tag with “clip” I was able to reimport the Project XML as an Event containing a compound clip.
This doesn’t seem to work if you copy and paste a sequence from a project to a compound clip within an event. An original media folder is created within the event folder and the clips used in the sequence are copied or an alias is created to the media in the original event (depending on your import settings in preferences).
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[Jeremy Garchow] Projects hold lots of info including render files, Roles, as well as the timing and effects. If Projects were just a compound clip, that’s how they would have to be defined for XML export, meaning, every XML would start with everything being inside a compound clip instead of a sequence.
Isn’t all this information held inside an Event as well.
Within events compound clips (clips with a spine) have the same attributes as the “sequence” tag within a project. (Within a a project they inherit the format of the project sequence)
So projects are more than a compound clip, they’re a subset of an event with a special compound clip called a sequence that can’t be embedded in other compound clips, and that is displayed in the project browser.
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Could you not achieve the same by creating an Event called Projects, creating your projects as compound clips, then viewing the Event in list view.
You can now embed your projects (sequences) inside other sequences and utilize the organizational capabilities of the event browser.
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Also a compound clip contained within the event browser can be exported via the share menu.
Trying to export the same compound clip when placed within a project exports the entire project.
You’re looking at the same timeline, in one the parent is an event, the other a project.
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Yes I did submit it to Apple.
Error in the math in the last line. The project file was actually over a thousand times its original size.