Robert Brown
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Yeah I went in there and couldn’t find it. Does anyone know if that function is there in this version of Premiere? Or what exactly is it called in the KB prefs? Thanks
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Should my opinion not be based on my own experiences? I do tend to use a lot of the Apple codecs which maybe why. What codecs do you use? Quick view is hard to beat though. Does Windows have an equivalent?
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I think name recognition and industry trends are very important. I’ve thought about checking out Vegas at times, but I’ve never seen an add looking for a Vegas editor. If it’s your own shop it doesn’t matter much but if you are in a segment of the industry you have to be compatible.
But to me once again I am actually happy that this is happening since there were so many important issues with fcp that Apple refused to address. PPro and Avid are both improvements for what I was looking for. It’s a matter of which is more marketable. I’ll probably learn both since PPro is so easy.
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I think a lot of us here are using Macs right now because of FCP. That was why I bought my first G5. I think this is a huge gamble for them but I personally am not that pissed at Apple really as much as I am bewildered.
The great news is PPro makes the whole transition almost painless. Same hardware and my expensive plugins work. I was really thinking of moving to something else before this whole thing happened anyway. Premiere still feels a little clunky but it has many of the things I wanted from FCP a long time ago: A good DVE, AE like keyframe editor, good EDL export, very good with different rez footage etc. FCP had a lot of things that really sucked and that they just never would fix. Good riddance!
And what Apple did with FCPX doesn’t interest me at all. But it took a lot of work from all of us to convince our clients that FCP was the way to go, now we have to start all over again with PPRo or Avid. That to me is the worst thing.
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I’ve been testing a lot of this over the last few days and thought I’d give my opinion. There is the issue of Media Encoder vs Compressor as well as OSX vs Win 7. AT this point I’m liking OSX using Prores. Media Encoder actually has some cool stuff about it and performs well. I think Compressor goes a little farther with things like timecode burns, cropping etc., but if you are doing a simple task like transcoding 5D footage to Prores it’s hard to beat. It’s faster than real time and there is NO gamma shift like there is with compressor and the converted image looked identical. Also the Prores files act like MOV files and are very easy to play etc. I made some DNX files yesterday and they would not play in the finder.
I still think OSX is a better editing OS as with Quick View it’s very easy to browse files and drag them in. Win 7 also seems much slower to load and play media files. In OSX I can play uncompressed 1080 off a single drive. Windows chugs. I’ve heard that Win 7 performs better but I’m not sure how. Maybe rendering speed but I haven’t checked it.
I think Apple will sell a lot of FCPXs just for DVC Pro and Prores as they are the ones to beat if you ask me for overall usability and quality.
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I’m very relieved it was operator error. I’m getting the hang of PPro pretty quick. It seems the most natural transition from from FCP since all the hardware and plugins work. Or at least the hardware -Kona 3- and plugins -Sapphire- I’ve paid for which is a fair amount of cash over just the software. I think Avid is really going to have to try even harder as those are pretty big issues.
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Thank you. I had to Google that to find where the setting was as I didn’t run across it before.
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It’s fuzzy or soft on Kona out and on the PPro windows. I haven’t tried export yet. I’m certainly hoping it’s good there. And BTW the Canon footage is one thing but I’m also seeing it on DVC PRO HD and Prores. This is one thing I hope Adobe gets right as one of FCP’s greatest strengths is quick video response as well as good quality on the canvas as well as output.
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I think most people realize fcpx probably has some cool stuff and God knows what the story will be in 5 years but the turmoil is really just from the way Apple decided to do this. After years of buildup with huge events at NAB for example, where every year for a while they would announce more and more new features to make FCP compete with Avid, they finally ditched that game and almost everybody they managed to get on their side. Kind of like a kid taking his ball home so nobody else could play.
Maybe they do “revolutionize” the prosumer market. But I think the bread and butter pro market is slower to change as people aren’t interested in a whole new way to edit as most of us are sick of learning new software. We just want everything to work and work well and also software that plays well with others.
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Nice rant and totally agree. And to the apologists: I don’t think anyone is saying X doesn’t have it’s merits. I’m sure it does although I haven’t used it and don’t know what they are but the fact is; if you make your money as an FCP editor or as owner of an FCP facility then you’ve got some problems. Maybe some more so than others but software programs are linear sorts of things. FCP has just entered the beginning of the end.
It’s as if the entire FCP team was killed in a plane crash but on the same day another company introduced this kind of odd new product with a “magnetic timeline”. Who cares about a magnetic timeline? If you know your software you can get it to do what you want.
As a former linear editor my desire for FCP was a decent DVE on par with what AE had more than 10 years ago, EDL export on par with what Avid had 15 years ago, frame accurate import and export to tape, a decent keyframe editor, good chroma keying, and yeah 64 bit, better GPU integration, more formats blah, blah, blah. Instead they said loud and clearly “your needs are not important”.
Apple may not need the “pro market”, they have more money than God so they probably don’t but they managed to change their image practically overnight to where many no longer get that warm fuzzy feeling when we see images of Steve Jobs on another stage introducing another product.
Maybe in the big picture none of this really matters but if you are one of the people with years of experience with FCS and who’s livelihood depends on it, it’s a pretty big deal. The “merits” of FCX don’t change that in the slightest as it’s a totally different product from a totally different company.