Philip Owens
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[Michael Adante] “Have you tried Media Managing the entire timeline to Pro Res Phil or going through compressor? “
I’ve dreamed about it. When I came onboard the project (all dailies had already been captured into XDCAM over the past six months), my first recommendation was to transcode all the dailies to ProRes. But the money wasn’t there for the 5x file size – it meant the jump to much larger RAID’s than were deemed affordable. Same applies now- I simply don’t have the drive space available to transcode the entire project. So my current plan is that once I get to first rough cut, I’m going to media manage that timeline to a new ProRes project, and then carry on from there. That would be a considerable help, I’m sure.
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[Jason Porthouse] “Whether it’s the codec (which I suspect) or FCP (less likely given that all other working modes for me have been rock solid) or some voodoo interference twixt the two I don’t know, but it’s bloody frustrating.
“I’m 99.999% confident it’s the codec, as I have used the exact same hardware to do all-ProRes, Uncomp 10-bit SD, and DV projects, without the slightest problem. I’ve a similar profile to yourself, and have never experienced such problems with FCP before. During the feature I did all last year in DVCPRO HD, I think I had about three crashes in an entire year…..ah, fond memories of I-Frame codecs!
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[Andy Mees] “What is the target code for your (failing) export, is it XDCAM EX (as on the timeline) or is it a preferred delivery codec? If the former, then you might want to consider the latter. If the latter, then what codec are you exporting to? Either way, what is the step by step procedure are you using for export? “
NIce to hear from you Andy! Yes, I’ve tried exporting as both XDCAM and also transcoding to ProResHQ – same end result – “Error:Out of Memory”. At this point I’ve been up half the night trying ever decreasing amounts of the timeline to see what actually WILL export!
[Andy Mees] “I wonder if you realise that those renders are simply ignored on export when they are not timeline native”
I did not know that, no, and thanks for letting me know that.
Re. your suggestion of switching to a ProRes timeline – that sounds like a great idea. Will I be able to cut SD DV @ 29.97, SD and HD ProRes @ 23.98 and 29.97 and XDCAM HD @ 23.98 clips onto that timeline? That’s the sum of my media types.
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[Rafael Amador] “Also you can try to copy&paste (or better drag&drop) all the Browser to a new project. “
Already tried that, no joy.
I made a decision today after the failures – I can’t deal with this any longer, so I’m going to buy a Matrox MXO2 Mini and a DVD recorder to make outputs easier. Hopefully that’ll be less painful. It can hardly be worse….
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[Dave Jenkins] ”
When you say import directly what does that mean? Log and Transfer? “Yes.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “OK. Is it getting caught up at the same point every time? If so, see where that place is in your timeline, and then find the media associated with it. Could be corrupt. “
Yeah, that’s the next challenge. I ran this export before I left for the night, and again remotely this morning, so I didn’t get to see the stage of the export that it gets to when it trips out. Guess I’ll just have to sit around the next time. Lovely.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You aren’t going to like this, but I would delete all your render files, rerender and start again. “
Did that. Both times. Agh!
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I’m working on 23.98 XDCAM EX. As to importing, both Sony’s own XDCAM Transfer software and Import directly into FCP has been done.
Today I’ve hit a new problem – I cannot export my timeline. Tried twice last night and it gets half way through then collapses in a heap with the ‘Out of memory’ error. The machine has 14GB RAM and tons of swap space available. This was the only timeline open (it’s 80 mins long), the timeline was fully rendered in ProRes first, and the machine was freshly restarted before trying each time. Any takers?
I hate this format!
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I concur. I’ve got 250+ hours of material, and a three hour sequence, and it’s a frightener. Gimme the I-Frame codecs any day.
But ProRes does work superbly, and all processing on such clips is properly multiproc-aware. Here’s one plan I had Michael that you might consider. I’m considering transcoding my selects sequences to ProRes over a series of nights, and then using them to cut with. Or, as sections of the cut approach lock, transcode those and work from there. I simply don’t have the space on the RAID to transcode all of the material.
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It’s not the system – this is a widely reported problem, and might be limited to Octocores since you and others report no problems on laptops and G5’s – my assistant has no crashing problems on his Dual G5, for example. Search XDCAM+crash here or on the Apple forums, and elsewhere for a rich mine of threads.
And when Michael was referring to “chunkier”, I’m sure he meant ProRes is simply larger file sizes…about five times larger by my calculations.