[Marcus Moore]

I agree it is. But I think that it may be expanding it market in lower tiers, people who may have found Legacy FCP daunting. Certainly coming from a current version of iMovie, FCPX is a easy stepping stone.

I’ll be perfectly honest that I believe FCPX will continue to shed some higher-end marketshare and build a bigger base in the bottom half of the market for another couple of years.

But as the feature set continues to grow it will be applicable to more and more workflows.

The only way FCP goes away is if Apple decides to walk away. They certainly have deeper pockets to spend on this horse than anyone else. But everything I’ve heard is that the team is very committed to the product.

[Marcus Moore]

I don’t see control surface support being out of the question.

[Marcus Moore]

I don’t think 10.1 should be considered a different application than 10.0.9. They’re not different enough to merit that distinction. And while you’re right Legacy FCP is an entirely different NLE, those are still Apple and FCP users until they upgrade or migrate to something else.

If we’re going to get that specific, how many premier users that are in the middle of productions aren’t updated to the latest version either?

[Marcus Moore]

Possibly. Or it might just be that as I said it’s a measure of total net benefit.

Here’s some numbers I’m pulling out of my ass.

If working with tracks slows means your picture cutting is 30% slower but your audio is 100% efficient.

But in FCPX your cutting is 100% but your audio is only 15% slower, then the net benefit is that your job gets done faster.

It’s just inverting the compromise in workflow, not necessarily that audio is any less important to the overall job. 😉

[Marcus Moore]

I think this is just another pointer to me that I think people have an over inflated sense of the size of our industry. I just don’t think the number are that huge for anyone.

[Marcus Moore]

Just to be clear, I’ve never been much of a live mixer- and have always been happier with the more tedious results from key framing. And that covers my experience across AVID, M100, FCP, and FCPX.

So this isn’t a concession I’ve made specifically for FCPX’s sake.

[Marcus Moore]

Here’s my general philosophy on this-

After having used X for 3 years now, I’ve come to believe that tracks are an impediment to speed in editing video. Before now, we’ve NEEDED to use the concept of tracks, but they were a concession to the audio side of the equation.

FCPX seems to me is putting more weight on the video side of that equation. It may not be a purely better audio solution, but a better video solution. If Apple can do what I’m hoping, then the net deficit on the audio side will more than made up for by benefits in speed and fluidity on the video side.

[Marcus Moore]

Hey Franz- yes that was us last month.

I don’t think I’m claiming that Adobe has lost any users.

But how do you reconcile the difference between last year’s 2.5 million Premier users and last months 1.8 million CC subscribers (that’s from their earning report)?

I think the answer is pretty simple- Adobe is counting ALL Premier users, and not just those on CC. So that would include anyone using Premier from ANY Legacy CS package.

IF that’s the case (and it’s the only way it makes sense to me), then the comparable number would be to add Apple’s 1mil+ FCPX to the number of remaining Legacy FCP users (2mil – however many have left or migrated).

[Marcus Moore]

Franz.

In the scenario I’m presenting, I don’t think Roles would move relative to their mixer assignments. Just because a Role is empty at a given time wouldn’t mean that the order of Roles changes or that it would bump another element.

Of course, we’re talking in the abstract here about an implementation that I’m only REALLY hoping Apple executes on. The finer points of which I’d leave to an audio engineer.

I can’t imagine doing live mixing anymore 😉

[Marcus Moore]

Franz, I tried to explain this above but let me try again.

I think in this scenario you have to assume a Role, regardless of how many clips high it is, counts as a single “Track” to the mixer. A Role is essentially a pre-mix.

If you don’t want that, then you need to break your rolls down into sub-Roles like

DIA JIMMY
DIA FRED
DIA MARY

Now each of those is a mixer “Track”, and each one is probably only a single clip high.