Jon Felix
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Thanks guys
Jon Felix
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Was trying to send you that information privately, but can’t find the way to do that. FYI – was not given a case number by either system, just names. Perhaps message me and I can respond?
Jon Felix
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HI Todd,
Thankyou so much for your swift response! Gosh … I have spent some two days trying to get information about this issue, should have posted my appeal here in the first place!
And apologies .. I did not mean to be insulting.. great to hear you still use Macs. I was obliquely referring to the fact that all the excellent training videos on the Adobe TV website seem to be using a PC (HP’s). Of course I since found out that HP (and nvidia) were sponsors of that site – so no surprise there.
You will understand that former FCP editors already suffer from a pervasive sense of betrayal and frustration (not least at having to learn vast amounts of new stuff – and no-one pays us for this). So when we find that our super new iMacs don’t run Premiere that fast and that the graphics cards in them are not supported, you will understand the further contribution to a sense of paranoia (or is that just me?).
I have spent much of the morning on hold to Adobe, and in three separate conversations (one with the Chat facility) was given the information I have: The CHAT person said that was as far as she knew, there were no plans to support iMacs.
Conversation with the second two gentlemen in India was more forthcoming. I have in fact just come off the phone with them (after a 1 hour hold), so my earlier post was not based on their information. The first chap however didn’t really understand the issue and assumed that I was getting error messages with the software. He put me on to his supervisor – a most helpful gentleman – who clearly and fully understood the issue and the discussion. He said there there was so much testing that had to be done to cards before they can work with the Mercury thing, that he did not know when and if support would come, but certainly understood the frustration.
Our concern is with the very urgent deadline we have to edit a film combining DSLR, 4k and 5k files. At the moment I am not really able to do this natively as playback is choppy and rendering very slow, as it is all happening in software. Of course I have to take some responsibility as I did not adequately research the compatibility of CS6 with various computers before upgrading the software and buying the computer. But now I am in the awkward position of having to come up with some solution PDQ which may involve having to buy or rent a different Mac, or even (god forbid) a PC. You will understand my sense of barely controlled panic.
I appreciate the response and information that you and the gentleman in India gave me and just hope that compatibility with the AMD 6970 is a high priority for Adobe.
Felix
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Adobe just told me they have no plans to support the 6970 on the iMac.
This is disastrous! I bought the iMac specifically to make the transition from FCP to Adobe Premiere. It’s great software (now) but runs slower (without that Mercury thingy) than FCP7. Do I really have to learn FCPX?! Please NO!!!!
C’mon Adobe …. we know you hate Apple .. but so many of us still love their hardware (if not their attitude to the Pro market). We really are not going to change over to PC’s en masse! Surely if you can support those other AMD graphics cards, you can support the one in the iMac?
Please .. someone from Adobe respond!!
Jon Felix
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Sorry you’re stumped! Hoped you’d have the answer!! FYI – I am not the only one who experienced a complete computer crash when carrying out this hack.
jon
Jon Felix
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Hi Angelo,
Many thanks for your reply.
All drivers are up to date and the card has 2Gb of VRAM. Just a clarification; you mentioned removing it from the CUDA text file (‘cuda_supported_cards.txt’). But following the instructions I found, I have been adding it to the ‘opencl_supported_cards.txt’ file. Should it be in the Cuda one instead/as well? And to answer your question, when I removed the ‘ATI Radeon HD 6970’ addition from the opencl text file, the computer no longer crashes.
Felix
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Briefly: you need to get both sources to the same frame rate. And you should NOT do this in FCP.
So: as converting UP is WAY better than the other direction: frame rate convert the 24fps 5d stuff, to 30 (ie. 23.98 to 29.97). You can then drop both into a 30fps timeline and you can add a DEINTERLACE filter to the 60i HDV stuff. I cut many commercials shot and edited at 24 and then convert them to 30 using Compressor’s best Optical Flow technology, so I know it’s good.
Ken Stones excellent article explains how to use Compressor to do very good frame rate conversions. https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/converting_frame_rates_compressor.html
It’s very time consuming though. Maybe you could do pre-assemblies or rough cuts of the 5d stuff – editing in a 24fps timeline – then frame convert that, instead of all the original; rushes.
Obviously a Pro-Res timeline is best so, if you haven’t already done it – you must also transcode the 5d’s H.264 sources into Pro-Res. Then do the frame rate conversion.*
* mmm …. you could try using MPEG Streamclip to both transcode the 5d source into ProRes AND a rough and ready frame rate conversion (24 to 30) AT THE SAME TIME. If you are pushed for time .. but as Daniel Low says elsewhere in this forum: ” MPEG Streamclip is not a great transcoder, although it is a great tool.. Frames/Fields will be doubled and fudged rather than have any complex ‘interpolation’ or calculations applied”
Hope that helps.
Jon Felix
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Well Dave, I’ve mixed just about everything on a PR timeline – XDcam, HDV, DVCPro HD, 3GP (joking about the last one) – and I’ve had no problems ………….ANYWAY…….
I re-transcoded yet again the Canon source files – this time using the Canon Log & Transfer FCP plug-in. Replaced the material in the timeline (no small feat – since the timecode is different of course) and ‘bob’s your uncle’ as we say in England: it’s all fine now. No rendering glitches.
Of course this doesn’t explain what happened – apart from it being something to do with MPEG Streamclip – a program I have used with great success for a year. Ah well – Canon’s plug in does of course make nice new timecode for you.
So why use MPEG Streamclip? Well last year I did a comparison transcoding well shot Canon 5d material to PR 4444 using the Canon plug-in, Compressor and MPEG Streamclip. MPEG Streamclip gave the nicest and most saturated images.
Thanks for your input.
Jon Felix
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Gosh .. there’s a point, Dave. I was told that the Canon ’30 fps’ was actually 29.97 – but now I see that with older versions of the camera’s firmware it WAS actually true 30fps. This camera might have had older firmware (not able to check today). So maybe it was actually true 30fps???
Although ……… I have just tried re-transcoding again – this time using the Canon Log & Transfer plug-in – and it has made PR files at 29.97, not 30.
Jon Felix
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Marin County, California