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[David Roth Weiss] “Had Apple simultaneously released FCPX and the fully functional 64-bit FCS 4 most were expecting, how many of you would be paying attention to this forum?”
I’d be happily cutting away, thinking about my next thunderbolt equipped Mac, and like before, only visiting the COW forums for occasional advice when stuck. Best thing about this debacle for me has been meeting everyone here and having some excellent conversations. That and losing my Apple fanboy blinders. As painful as it’s been, I’m open to NLE platform possibilities I never considered before. Adaptation… it’s a way of life.
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[Craig Seeman] “Certainly others may not want that and some may not understand it, but it’s the way my brain is wired. It’s why I find data bases far more flexible than spreadsheets. I want control over the data. I don’t want it forced into horizontal rows when that is decidedly not my intent.
I would love to see FCPX move to a more nodal relationship in which the connection may be to clips or secondary storylines rather than limited to the primary storyline. I’d like to have more control over the visual relationship when needed (and it is sometimes).”
Agree it’s a brain wiring thing that really influences how each of us feels about the trackless timeline. For example, I can’t imagine a nodal system being helpful for time-based work. The way my brain is wired, nodal relationships apply to shots, not to time, so it just doesn’t make sense.
Tracks on the other hand are a clear, efficient way to represent parallel channels of synchronized time-based media in a 2D graphic space. The way my brain is wired, it makes perfect sense.
A question for you and for Tony – I’ve asked this before but I’m curious what your thoughts are:
Do you think a trackless, ripple-only timeline would be good for creating music? Would you want to create an album or do your audio post on the magnetic timeline? Would you want DAWs to adopt this timeline model as a standard?
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[Bill Davis] “I try not to do it, but I find myself in mid thought and feel the need to EMPHASIZE a word for meaning and I’m too stuck in my traditional keyboarding ways to catch myself FAR too often.”
Yeah, I hear that muscle memory thing can be a real pain 😉
I like italics for emphasis but everyone has their own preference. The style buttons work well here but if you’re used to writing fast I can see how they may slow you down.
[Bill Davis] “I apologize for any impression of impoliteness that it communicates. That’s never my intent. And I’ll try harder to remember it in the future.”
Thanks and no worries. I enjoy your posts and the debate. Just want to help keep the focus on ideas rather than writing/communication styles! 🙂
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You forgot one:
Be the best
The fourth and final guiding principle that Joswiak shared was Apple’s commitment to only enter markets that it believes it can be the best in. Each of the three products currently under the executive’s watch — the iPod, iPhone and iPad, has arguably become the best in its industry.
”If you can’t enter the market and try and be the best in it, don’t enter it. You need that differentiation. At Apple if we can’t be the best then we are not interested in it,” Joswiak said.
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[Bill Davis] “I WISH.
That view is from I saw and heard at the SuperMeet introduction. They talked, IIRC about starting with a clean slate. And the program they introduced was OBVIOUSLY not a simple “tweak” of the Legacy code base that I could tell. And clearly the fact that X is built, not around Quicktime (as Legacy clearly was), but rather AV Foundation and Core Video, kinda supports that as well, don’t you think?
I’m not a programmer, so this is all supposition on my part. But I do listen to when the smart guys are talking, even if I don’t always totally understand what they’re saying. ; )”
I hear ya. And I also understand wanting to present a positive case for FCPX. This is a debate forum and I enjoy the debate. But I think it’s important to be clear about what’s fact and what’s opinion. Maybe it’s just a style thing but for example:
[Bill Davis] “Every line of code is clean, clear, and purpose built to do what they wanted. Every feature built into the old had to EARN it’s way into the new build. Every line of FCP-X code is optimized for the hardware world we live in today. “
This is a statement of absolute fact. A new visitor looking to this forum for information, not knowing where you’re coming from could easily read it that way. If you’ve talked to the engineers and they’ve told you this, awesome, please say more. If not, then I think you should expect some push back when you make this kind of argument.
Also, you do know it’s common netiquette that anything in all caps IS CONSIDERED YELLING, right?
Just say’in 😉
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[David Roth Weiss] “I was being a just little facetious David. :)”
Aha, missed it 😉
[David Roth Weiss] “BTW, I met your bro Dan the other night, who came all the way to the LAFCPUG just to see me guruing. For the record, and I’m sure Dan will attest, I never said one word in jest about FCP X to the group.”
Yes, he mentioned it and said he enjoyed meeting you and the presentations very much. I’m heading down and will be there for a week starting Tues. for Thanksgiving. Bro said you’re out of town during that time so I guess it’ll have to be next time for us to all get together for a drink.
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[Bill Davis] “Every line of code is clean, clear, and purpose built to do what they wanted. Every feature built into the old had to EARN it’s way into the new build. Every line of FCP-X code is optimized for the hardware world we live in today. The stuff they built for YESTERDAY’s editing environments – that’s the stuff they left out. (And precisely what hurts so many with a serious requirement to support hardware, software, and necessary workflows as they were done back in LEGACY.)”
Bill, from the definitive tone of your statements, it sounds to me like you’ve had remarkable direct access to the engineers and designers of FCPX. Is there anything else from your conversations with them that you’re able to share?
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[David Roth Weiss] “[Jamie Franklin] “The elimination of a click though? I can skim through any media with the source viewer. I’m forced to click or slog through jkl keys but it’s not a feature that’s “missing” anywhere else…just the click”
I don’t get it Jamie, the logic is clear, what are you missing? Abandoning ten years of legacy projects, completely retraining staff, and changing the vernacular of 110 years of editing terminology, just to avoid that click and a few clip collisions seems completely logical.”
My read is that Jamie is actually defending legacy here. I think he’s saying that skimming is not a “missing” feature, that it’s easily accomplished in the source viewer with a single click. That’s my experience as well.
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[Jamie Franklin] “Anyone know when Lightworks will release a mac beta? I haven’t kept up with development lately…”
According to the website, we should hopefully get the first Mac beta on Dec. 19th.
Looking forward to it!
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I thought that was one of the most interesting ideas in that interview (which otherwise didn’t have any real news). I don’t know how it would be implemented – (maybe through a new standards body set up by the Editor’s Guild, ACE, and other interested orgs.?) but I think there would be clear benefits for all.
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