Cal Johnson
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Vince, please, I’m not interested in your interpretations of Adobe’s marketing strategy. I’m looking for relevant information from people using Dynamic link in CS4. I’ve asked with respectfully, and yet you keep trying to get the debate going. If you do not have any practical information, could you please leave me alone and go start your own thread or something? Man, I though the people on Creative Cow weren’t into the bravado nonsense.
I’m editing a project right now, and keep getting e-mail alerts, and its just you trying to prove some point, though what it is I don’t know. Its very annoying. I will see if I can delete this thread and start over. Would you kindly leave that one alone so I can see if someone actually has some information that will help resolve things? I’d really appreciate it. Really. Thanks for being a respectiful Cow member.
Cal
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Vince, we’re getting into a debate that I have no interest in. I don’t “have to look at the reality of things” at all. Please take a look through Adobe’s site, and how they describe dynamic link. Please, before responding again, go take a look. They talk about how dynamic link makes so that you no longer need to render a comp out from After Effects, and then bring it into Premiere. Instead, just use dynamic link to bring the composition straight from AE to PP. Please read my first post more carefully. I’m saying this has no time saving use to me if I can’t effectively preview the composition in Premiere. I’ve tried making a sequence that is half the size, but even that needs a render preview before it can be played back. And that render preview in Premiere is taking 4x as long as it is just to render it AE and bring it in.
You seem to be saying “so what if the software doesn’t work like they say it should”. I don’t care about that. I’m interested in hearing from people who either have it working, or feel it can’t work due to the software, and so investing in a hefty computer upgrade isn’t going to change things. If you have some insight to that, I’m all ears. If not, sorry, but I’m not interested in the debate. I’m a huge fan of Adobe and their products, this is just an issue that I am trying to clarify, and I’m looking for information in that regard. Please respect my intial post and allow me to ask that question without taking the discussion totally off track.Cal
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Hmm.. well, I’m afraid I have to disagree with you, at least for our work flow. I find its much more useful to finish in Premiere. This way I can preview the video before its final output. Also, we do lots of audio work that sometimes gets changed at the last minute (client wants a new sound track, etc). What you’re describing I would be going from Premiere, into After Effects, and then back into Premiere again… Also, by making your final output in After Effects, you’re committing to a full render of the entire project even if there’s just one small thing that needs to be changed.
Anyhow, I didn’t want to debate the merits of workflows, I’m looking for people who are using dynamic link to bring in After Effects compositions into Premiere with CS4. Adobe touts it as a major feature of the Production Premium package. I believe that in CS3, going from Premiere to After Effects wasn’t even an option, but I could be wrong. In any case Vince, the whole point of dynamic link is to avoid rendering from After Effects to go into Premiere, as you describe. Thats a huge feature that Adobe really has emphasized, but its not working at all for me. I just wanted to know if this is a hardware issue, and I need a better graphics card or whatever, or if its just something that doesn’t quite work as well as advertised.
Again, I’m not looking to get into a debate. I’m wanting to hear from anyone who has no problem making this feature work, or who it doesn’t work for, and they feel its the software so no amount of processing power is going to change things.
It sounds like you’re not using dynamic link to bring your After Effects comps into Premiere…. why not? Because you encouter some of the same issues I described?
Cal
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Just right hand mouse click on the keyframe you want to change, and select “Keyframe Interpolation”, then change it to what ever you want, Linear, if you want to go back to the default setting you started with.
Cal
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Thanks Darby, and Dave. The last two posts you guys put up between have really clarified this for me. Good explanations… thanks again.
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Ok, thanks for steering me in the right direction Dave. I found some really good info on Adobe’s site, and I’ve been doing right, using the “no compression setting” for renders which apparently results in no loss of quality. They are also suggesting using Quicktime’s animation codec that according to them is lossless. Thanks again, quite the eye-opener!
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Wow, I am totally confused. I was always led to believe that the Mini DV codec was a “lossless” compression scheme, thus the ability to shoot, capture to your computer, then output back to tape without loss of quality. That’s always been my understanding, so you’re saying this is not true?
What I can’t seem to get any clear answer for, is that if I capture some footage, SD, 16×9 shot on my XL2, onto my PC, using Premiere, and then open that footage, which is an AVI file, in After Effects, add a title graphic, and then want to render out the composition to be used back in Premiere, same project that I captured the footage with, what render settings do I use so that the quality matches/equals the same quality that I have in the Premiere Project? But you’re saying I’ll “suffer a quality hit to some degree” no matter what… this doesn’t make sense to me… I thought the whole point of digital footage is just that, its digital, so I should suffer no loss quality simply importing an AVI file into After Effects, and then rendering it back out again… you’re saying you can’t do that?
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It depends on how much money you want to spend, and what kind of quality you want to end up with. A great torture test that I highly recommend is that you lightly wet your thumb, and do a smear test. Some discs will not hold their color at all, and can smear VERY easily.
If you’re wanting a very professional solution, I’d take a look at the Primera stuff (www.primera.com). They offer a DVD burner/printer for $1500, and the print quality is awesome. I saw it at NAB, and the discs looked great, and don’t smear. You have to use a specific type of disc, and then buy the ink, but if you’re going to do a lot of production DVD or CD’s for clients and it needs to be a professional end product, its totally worth it.
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Ok, thanks for the info.
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Mike. I don’t have the program in front of me at the moment, so I’m not sure about question #1.
#2 – I believe the A/B editing workspace is toast. In earlier versions, the A/B was used just so you can add transitions. Now you add the transitions between the clips even though they are laid end to end on the same track. As you click and add the transitions, the cursor changes to the transition tool. It is telling you it will add the transition so it is at the beginning, middle, or end of the cut.
You can expand your Effects Control Panel using the wing button on the upper right, its actually called the “Expand Timeline View” button, and it is essentially an A/B workspace, very easy to understand. Shows you how much the clips are overlapping, how long your transition is, where it starts, and if there are repeated frames.
#3 Look at the buttons in the top left of the Titler window. There is one there that is called “Create New Title from Current Title”. If you click that, you will be asked to give you new title a name, then a new title will be created exactly the same as the one you were just working on until you modify it, and the original will be saved.
I actually use this feature in a tutorial I posted on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ivzetNGQ8