[Bogdan Brak]

…hmmm… it’s not worth opening a new thread. so i keep on asking here… i would like to insert a vignette to my video after rendering out the TIFFs. should I use Photoshop or Premiere. Does it make any diffrence?

[Bogdan Brak]

If the DVI is only outputting videosignal is not that important. at least I will use a PC as playback device… so there should be no problem to plug in boxes to the line-out or whatever.

And I ve never heard of pureVideo. tried to figure out what it is. my card GTX 460 seems to support it. did i get it right? i only have to check in the nVidia controlpanel to use the nVidia settings, not the player settings?

but i really appreciate the script link. there were only a few things that i had do “redo” after using it. i hope that i didn’t overlook something. now it’s rendering… im so curios about the result, you can’t imagine 😉

[Bogdan Brak]

Hell yeah kubo!!!
The script is awsome and does really scale it up using the best footage resolution. i compared the tiff frames. i’m just not sure if it also scales up the FX like mercury bubbles,,, but who cares?… it looks much better now.

In between… i’ve got the information about the physical device:
Athlon 64 X2 4800, 2,5 GHz, 4 MB RAM + nVidia Quadro FX 1500 mir 256
MB.
It has a DVI output.

[Bogdan Brak]

well well well…
the physical device will be a PC. I think it’s a Duo Core but I still got to figure out the detailled hardware information. The connection to the TV will be DVI or HDMI.

I think at the end I’m going to use my system. It’s a Phenom II x4 955 Quadcore with 3,2 GHz. 8GB RAM and a GTX 460 1GB.

“But alas,.the client computer is not capable for smooth playback, it’s very choppy.”

yes… that’s actually what I’m afraid of but I still have the possibility to use my system. so my system will be the reference by now.

But anyway… to be safe I’m going to render two versions. one in 720 one in 1080. that’s why I’m asking for both settings.

“But i personally agree with dave,..u don’t gain much difference in high res, and yes dave is right (he always right,..). it really makes a difference how it’ll be connected to the TV set.”

I believe you in this point and I would never dare to disagree with dave ;).
I was just thinking that if I compress a 1080 file I will get better results especially in bendering and artifact issues.

The script sounds nice. I never used scripts. hope that i get how it works 😉

Since I’m using TIFF-Sequences I have no BSODs. But even if I get one, the TIFFs will be there… so I can continnue at the point where my PC crashed.

Maybe I should follow Davs advice an post it in to the compresses tech forums. but I just dont wanted to create millions of threads 😉

[Bogdan Brak]

Hi Dave and thanks for ypur reply,

Well, I already repeted this a lot of times ;)… but I think you got me wrong. I don’t want to use AE for h.264 compression. I am only rendering my lossless TIFF Sequence out of there.
The final h.264 compression will be done by AME. I’m just not sure about the right profile and bitrate-settings to get a playable AND good looking file.

About my reasons for 1900×1080:
At the end it will be shown to my teachers at university. And I’m going to show it on a 50″ FullHD TV that is plugged to an PC.
When I fit it to the screen (fullscreen) anyway it’s going to be scaled by the player(VLC, Quicktime or Windows Media Player) to 1900×1080, right?

That’s why I thought:
Ok… when it’s going to be scaled by the player program anyway, than why shouldn’t I make directly a 1080p file that does not have to be scaled by the player. And actually it should look better than a video scaled by the player or did I get something wrong?

[Bogdan Brak]

to 3:
in my project there’s nothing i could do with the “collapse” button when i’m trying to scale it to 1080p. I tried everything. It just got blown up. I have to live with the fact that I’ve made a mistake in the beginning.

But… I tried to compare this:
1. 720p-Frame -> PSD-File -> in PS scaling up to 1080p
2. 720p-comp -> in AE scaling up to 1080p-comp -> PSD-file

Results: Scaling up via PS seems be sharper(better) than via AE.

So… by now. the only two things I still need to know is:
1. which h.264 settings to use for rendering 720p TIFF-Sequence into 720p-H.264
2. which h.264 settings to use for rendering 1080p TIFF-Sequence into 1080p-H.264

still thanks in advance!

[Bogdan Brak]

Well guys.
Thanks for your participation in solving my problems.
Because of lack of time I can’t do completley hardware test and reinstall the OS. I will do this when the project is done.

But somehow I think it could be the latest Quicktime Player version that messes something up.
In the bgeinning I told you that I’m exporting my TIFF-sequence embed in a QT Container.
After I changed my rendersettings to a pure TIFF-sequence I could render my footage twice without any errors or BSODs.
I was still using multiprocessing an gave 6,5 GB RAM to AE.
I only changed the value in the “secret” menu to 20 or 25.

Maybe finally… is it recommendable to use MP with a 4-core-sytem (3,2GHz) and 8 RAM? Yesterday I read here in the forum that even with 8GB RAM it should NOT be used. Are there any special pros and contras?

[Bogdan Brak]

“If you are suggesting this: 1080p Comp > 720p Comp > 1080p Comp, make sure that collapse transformations is on, otherwise you’ll soften the image”

yes…actually that’s what i’m suggesting. but i have a lot of comps of different sizes in between.
Is it then necessary to turn on the collapse button in every single comp or is it enough to do it only in the final comp?

i’ve read about this collapse-checkbox in the manual but i did’n get how it really work.

when i pressed it somewhere in the middle comps everything got f***** up. when i pressed it at the final comp i couldn’t see any obvious diffrence (with my eyes).

[Bogdan Brak]

Well…
no stresstest yet. but…yesterday when i was rendering into QT TIFF-Sequence with 4GB (out of 8). The whole stuff was perfectly rendering 10 hours (of 20)and crashed then.
the funny thing about this. i was was working during the whole time (10h) on my PC. in indesign, photoshop… used my tablet..ect. it kept on rendering. thaaaaaaaan… i decided to eat something. so i closed all unused programs and went into to kitchen. 15 or 20 Minutes later. BSOD MEMORY_MANAGEMENT… crap!

so before stresstesting i decided to give it a last try.
i went into the secret menue did the purge-RAM thing every 20 frames.
then i rendered it during the night out as as TIFF-sequence without QT-Container. And I also decided to leave 6,5 GB for AE(instead of 4)

and… hell yeah! i woke up and the sequence was completly through without any errors.
so… as far as i dont get any more crashes, i think i will stay with this settings.

Thanks!

if your are still in the mood:
to finnish my project properly now i actually need some more recommendings. especially about the best h.264 settings.
and if i should make a 1080p out of my 720p

i repost the overview:

– ITS 720p AND SHOULD BE SHOWN ON A BIG FULLHD-TV
– USING VLC, QUCIKTIME OR WINDOW MEDIA PLAYER.
– OF COURSE FULLSCREEN.
– AND A NON-HIGH-END PC SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY THE MOVIE

THE FACT, THAT AT THE END IM GOING TO SHOW IT IN FULLSCREEN LEADS ME TO ANOTHER LITTLE PROBLEM:

FULLSCREEN IS ACTUALLY 1080P.
SO I HAD TWO THOUGHTS

1.IT SHOULD MAKE SENSE TO MAKE A 1080P H.264 FILE OUT OF THE UNCOMPRESSED 720p… OR NOT?

2. IN MY AE-PROJECT I HAVE A LOT OF COMPS IN COMPS INS COMPS… BUT THE ORIGINAL FOOTAGE IS BIG ENOUGH FOR FULLHD. WOULD IT MAKE ANY DIFFRENCE WHEN I PUT MY FINAL 720P COMP INTO A NEW 1080P COMP AND THAN I RENDER THE UNCOMPRESSED FILE OUT…AND FINALLY COMPRESS IT?
IMAGINE THIS:

BIG FOOTAGE INTO COMP -> INTO LITTLE COMP -> INTO 1080-COMP

DOES AE LOOSE INFORMATION IN THESE STEPS AND ONLY BLOW IT UP AT THE END OR DOES IT USE THE BEST SIZE THAT’S POSSIBLE?

THX FOR PATIENCE 😉

CHEERS

[Bogdan Brak]

aerm…. i saw the video tutrial about it, but somehow i didnt get it. i mean… i thought it only affects the render PREVIEW and makes things slower.
additionally somehow i disliked that fact that it’s a “secret”… i thought it will have a good reason why it’s a “secret” menue and decided to not touch it.
but now that you mentioned it, i probably try its

in between… while talking about secrets…i found an easter egg… there’s a sheep sound when you click on a specific tableheader while holding shift or conrtol. cant explain it properly. my english is tooooo bad 😉 i think it’s the top of the effects panel oder project panel.
this kind of secrect do not dislike 😉