Bill Davis
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[Herb Sevush] “But you wouldn’t understand that, because you have no experience outside the Apple bubble.”
But Herb, this wasn’t MY criticism, as I noted.
It’s what I’ve been reading on outside forums focused on working editors who DO use programs like Premiere Pro.
I have no deep knowledge of how Adobe’s ecosystem functions for it’s users. So all I can do is read what others who do use that system post on-line.
And if you haven’t run into those who are upset that they think resources MIGHT have been diverted from PPro in the building of RUSH, (THEIR suspicion not mine, to be clear) then I don’t know what to say.
We’ve seen Apple and AVID get EXACTLY the same criticism over and over again. ALL editors are unhappy when they get a whiff that some company might not be prioritizing what THEY prefer them to prioritize over all else. It’s human nature.
This is just the same. That’s all.
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[Neil Goodman] “Now their comparing it to an app clearly aimed at beginners and saying, look they copied us. Cant win. ????”
Not actually comparing the software – comparing the arc of the development effort.
Famously, Randy Ubillos “pencil sketched” sone if his initial magnetic and editorial ideas for iMovie – thinking of it as a feeder” software for FCP itself
Jobs equally famously said THATS the next iMovie.
Those fundamental ideas got expanded and leveraged into X – Now Apples flagship editor for ALL classes of editors, from event folk to movie folk.
It’s not impossible to conceive that Rush might develop along the same lines over the next half decade.
We’ll see.
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That is true, Herb.
But most of the criticism I’ve seen of the release from traditional editors has centered on the idea that Adobe should be concentrating their efforts on bolstering the main software, NOT wasting their time on innovating new products for “non-pros.”
I suspect that they can do both, but we’ll see how things shake out.
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[Oliver Peters] “Hmm… The video and the verbiage in the text info is talking about the current release, not anything yet to come.
– Oliver”
Seriously? Mr. Saccone sent out a new features promo post on Tuesday for features that were actually previously released? That just seems weird. I guess if it was just “counter messaging” against Adobe’s MAX announcements in the stream, I can kinda sorta understand that. But it seems odd to promote as “news” – things that aren’t actually “news.”
(Holy heck, did I just write that? Looking up at the paragraph above, it seems utterly stupid to have written that in 2018. I’ve been busy but I haven’t been under a rock – and I certainly should have learned by now that the new normal is that it really doesn’t much matter WHAT you say on the interwebs – as long as you successfully get eyeballs to read it.) Maybe it’s the new world of real-time streaming PR, and since i’m out of that game, I just don’t see the idea of re-sending old news as if it’s fresh news. I don’t really follow BM or Adobe more than casually these days and when I saw a PR “press release” type post in my feed, I thought that implied “fresh news” – silly me.
In my defense, the post that crossed my feed was dated October 15th – and said…
Sorry if I didn’t understand that something dated YESTERDAY and that started with the words “Today…” was about something apparently done a while ago.
Actually, I now wonder if Mr. Saccone actually sent this out when it APPEARED that he did. Maybe it was just a copy pasta that took his historic post – and re-sent it under a new dateline? Man this era is difficult to work in to try to understand what’s real and whats just more market manipulation.
My attention is definitely elsewhere these days. Sorry for the confusion, Carry on.
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[Tero Ahlfors] “”Blackmagic teases”? 15.1 has been out for a while.”
Well, Paul Saccone, the product manager, apparently felt that the “fall upgrades” coming soon were worthy of a pre-announcement since he sent this link out yesterday.
So I think the term “teasing” kinda fits, since he’s describing features NOT yet released in the product.
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[Neil Goodman] “No one is saying he isnt corrct – just super childlike in his immediate reaction to try and call out Adobe for trying to mingle in that market. Thats all. “
At my age, being called “childlike” is a super compliment!
So thank you.
Sincerely.
(Oh, and I was actually PRAISING Adobe for some forward looking thinking in Rush.)
That’s exactly what has been missing IMO, in the past few years – as they pretty much have focused on being FCP Legacy Version 8.
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We all sometimes get testy and over-react.
Consider it forgotten.
Take care.
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See my above post.
It was NOT intended to come across as more than gentle ribbing.
As I’ve written extensively elsewhere I think this is an excellent move on Adobe’s part that will serve their future editors well.
Establishing a new approach that jettisons some of the past thinking and sets up an approach more aligned with the FUTURE is precisely what Apple did 7 years ago with X.
Good for Adobe doing the same thing.
I know there are LOTS of editors worried that trying to run on two tracks – maintaining PPro fir the legacy editors while developing the new program simultaneously will impede one or the other – but my opinion has ALWAYS been that the future holds more promise than the past.
And good for Adobe for making the commitment to do more than just continuing to follow the same old traditional tracks (pun intended)
Seriously. Bravo Adobe. I Welcome your turning more attention toward the future.
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[Dennis Radeke] “You sound strident and a bit lost when you say things like this.
“Not strident AT ALL.
In fact, I’ve been trying to Praise Adobe’s direction in other boards as I see this as the first major step in Adobe’s adding to their movie/tv show paradigm of the past with pivoting more toward modern web based content creation tools.
To the extent it quotes ideas in X so what? Presumably those will help real editors edit more efficiently and that’s a net benefit.
I think this serves their customers VERY WELL.
And Adobe should be praised for looking forward in this.
Sadly, what I’ve mostly seen on the “professional” editing boards are Premiere Pro editors doing EXACTLY what FCP Legacy editors did when FCP X was released. Bitching that it’s “not what we wanted!!!) and “so this is why Legacy hasn’t been updated fast enough!) and similar things that miss the larger point.
Adobe is investing time and resources coding solutions for where things are going, not just for where they used to be.
Good for them.
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For me personally, I’ve kinda had a two tier strategy to my field monitoring.
Tier one has always been SET UP THE SOUND.
Set up the gear, get the signal path working. Test it with regular headphones listening for issues. Fix the issues.
IF there’s a sound person, turn it all over to them.
If not, rely on the gear to continue to operate as designed accepting that if things OVERTLY change, (traffic, doors opening or closing, a light that goes on with a buzzy ballast, etc – I’ll hear it in the real world of the shoot and can get out the cans to see if it’s a serious issue.Then we move on to:
SHOOTING WITH SOUND.
I often wear a single earbud for doing this. I have about 3 of them from Amazon, from a company called Far End. They sell a Stereo-to-mono Noise Isolating Earphone with Fabric Wrapped Cord. These come in short and VERY short versions. Very short can hang off a shoulder mount camera really well. It has a 3.5mm plug, so you may have to adapt that to 1/4″ stereo phone if your source has that.It’s not at all a real “isolation” strategy, and takes some getting used to – BUT – if a battery fails or something goes seriously wrong, you should notice it. It’s certainly better than the old “ear side” speakers built into the earlier betacams so that your camera side ear could at least hear SOMETHING was getting to the preamps!
And the “medum short” one works pretty well with a gimbal rig.
They aren’t nearly as good as cans. But if you use them, you at least aren’t shooting sonically blind.
I’ve always wanted to check out the Etymotic stuff, (or the custom moulded ear sets like my wife used on the air on TV for so many years for IFB, but I’ve never found a decent excuse to spend that much money.
My 2 cents. YMMV.
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The shortest path to FCP X mastery.
