[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Sam Mestman] “Anyway, here’s all I have left to say about the studio movie in terms of clarification. I’ve never seen the budget (not my department) so can’t officially sign off on a number, but based on the catering, cast, crew, and shooting schedule… it’s no indie, and is on the highest level of production. “

Cool – I’ll just say this – because Larry was selling hard on the stage, and he was positing FCPX as being the same as accepting the future, I just really noticed him headlining the fact that “A hundred Million dollar film being edited with FCPX”. And that it was one of the “major six studios.”

being honest, thats some headline right? The reason I went off on one was that I incorrectly presumed, given that he quoted you, and he quoted a hundred million dollar film, he was incorrectly quoting your article, on X’s involvement in that bulgaria hundred million dollar film.

Basically if you are going to get up in front of hundreds of professional editors, and close by outlining your training deals available, you should be right when you say “a hundred million dollar film, from one of the major six studios, being cut on FCPX.”
But that’s not right – as you say, you didn’t know the budget, so there was no way to tell larry that, and when I asked him, Larry replied to me that he decided it was a hundred million dollar film by looking at the cast list. (?)

So without being coy about it: I think Larry got confused, as Shane suggested. I think Larry Jordan conflated the hundred million dollar film where X was cutting marketing materials with the other film where he knew nothing about the budget, where X was in fact being used to cut it.
Unless this other one is set on mars and stars brad pitt or something.

I didn’t mean to make quite such a big deal out of this, its just that the supermeet is a bit of a sell, for the people presenting to some degree, and for the products represented – being able to attach both to “a hundred million dollar film being edited with FCPX” probably sounds awfully attractive, but maybe Larry shouldn’t have said that, because he wasn’t in a position to say it? Given neither you nor he actually know the film budget?

And that’s the last from me on this. Way more pot stirring from the cheap seats than I intended.
Larry should probably confirm the budget, or pull the hundred million dollar quote from his blog tho – it looks bad.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

hey just checking is all – this is a separate second feature, that also has a hundred million dollar budget, and its being cut on X – just wanted to make sure that was clear, that’s a pretty big deal. As Sam states, for what he understands is the first US studio feature to be cut on X, that the studio entrusted a 100 million dollar production feature to X for “post production” is a pretty big deal, although the editor the director of this feature decided to work with must have been on board right?

I’m curious about the six months of negotiation to use X for post production editing of this feature – that must have been the editor arguing for it you’d think? Or was it sam arguing for it in the six months of negotiations? Really just curious is all – its a pretty big deal?

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

Hey, sure me all stirring the pot here –

So just to clear then, when larry was talking about X cutting a 100 million dollar feature at the supermeet, where he had talked to you and the editor – he was talking about this second totally different one hundred million dollar feature? this other one is in the states where he spoke to you and the film’s editor about the decision to employ X – a decision making process that started six months ago, (when did this film go into production? that’s not giving much away, can you give the date when this second other 100 million dollar US major feature went into production?) – but so again: that other editor is editing a 100 million dollar feature for a major six studio, you were involved in setting it up, and it is being edited in FCPX?

I keep trying to re-state this more clearly: there basically is an entirely different 100 million dollar feature, that no one has really spoken about until now, that you were involved in the edit setup of, where it is being cut on X, and that’s what Larry was talking about? this other major studio feature you haven’t written about, not the bulgarian 100 million dollar feature you have written about?

me so stupid, this super confusing.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

OK – I asked him on the jordan biz blog. mostly relating to his conversations with the film’s editor.

It’s honestly maybe an issue of what film, given there may well indeed be a second 100 million dollar unnamed film involving X and mestman that we don’t exactly know about.
As has been suggested above.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Bill Davis] “Very nice of you to say so.”

what have we come to? 😉

honestly, that was a flat out handy watch. I got tagging quite a bit better.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

I dunno – you were pretty seriously informative on the moviola tagging and keyword piece for FCPX.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Oliver Peters] “The “$100 million feature film” is NOT the Bulgaria project. That was never mentioned. Based on Sam’s description in the article and elsewhere, such as a RedUser, it’s a completely different production.”

wait – so there is a second 100 million dollar production mestman is citing currently without a name? Because bulgaria is the only 100 million dollar project I can find cited?
And – to be clear – the second one, the second 100 million dollar project, that they entered discussions on six months ago, who’s editor jordan spoke to, is being edited on X?

So all of Larry’s comments at the meet, do not relate to mestman’s article at fcp.co? there is a second 100 million dollar film, that mestman was involved in the setup of, that was greenlit to be edited with X some time ago?

Why didn’t mestman write an article about that? Why did he write an article about a hundred million dollar film getting its marketing EPK stuff cut on X, when he could have written an article about another totally different hundred million dollar movie without a name that was being edited, as a major studio feature, on FCPX?

I’m an idiot, but I’m confused.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

fine fine ok – i’ll post a question – actually wait – can’t you? the fact that I’m running a mad tabloid j’accuse thing could be a tad awkward.

you could just say – some lunatic is posting guff on a forum about your supermeet.

I honestly was a bit uncomfortable watching it tho – he ran a seriously hard sell there. It’s hard not to feel there wasn’t some attempt to gin up X. I’m not even sure it needed tbh.
Why didn’t he say base it off le mans even? That was a pretty big deal and you’d have to figure that production workflow would be fascinating.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

can’t we maybe just spin it insanely here for a while?

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Chris Harlan] “when you call a thread “Why is Larry Jordan Making Up Stories?” you are casting aspersions, “

errrr – mmmmm – you’ve got me there. Too exposed to english tabloid headline sensationalism p’raps?
Still it is a little odd given the discussions he said he had, and him referring to the film’s editor speaking directly to him about the rationale for picking X – a lot of people at that supermeet walked out with a possibly wildly incorrect impression. also Larry banked quite a bit of his piece on it – the interchange and workflow stuff he referred to as being ready for extremely high level work “like I don’t know … 100 million dollar films?” (thats around the 50 minute mark for the curious).

part of his job is to weave some magic – it was a great demo and some of the capabilities were an eye opener, I just don’t think it would have sounded quite as cool if he had said “X employed to cut fast turnaround EPK marketing materials on a 100 million dollar film.”

anyway – I’m half carping.

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