Aindreas Gallagher
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am I gone bonkers so? how do you mean simon?
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[Charlie Austin] “What it is the same as, is if I put a centred dissolve on a cut point that lined it up where your dissolve begins and ends when you adjusted the cut point within your dissolve transition effect. What you are changing is not the centre point of the dissolve.”
OK – so charlie that’s flat out wrong. That cut point, lets say represents the stitch in two bars of a track, one from earlier, one from later. I want to patch it with a long dissolve to run it in, and get out with a very short dissolve because the outgoing music changes sharply after that. that’s my patch. I’m bang on my edit point and that’s the cross fade i need – a really long fade up for the incoming bar blending it in – and an extremely short fade on the exit. there isn’t any logic where that is actually a centred fade in an other form. or that a different edit point with a centred fade is the same thing. It isn’t chum.
The edit point needs to be where it is, what you are proposing shifting the edit point to allow a centred dissolve to cover the same turf does not fly.
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well yes – but if you exaggerate it enough to weight one side over the other, the cut centre point analogy fails doesn’t it?
https://imgur.com/4T53wD4,4O9CNGn,24nB3ee#0
the cut point there remains the same throughout, a spoon is still a spoon as it were, then there is a default transition,
and then it is weighted heavily to favour the incoming audio – the mix to the incoming edit is pretty smooth, occurs over like a bar hypothetically or whatever, and the trailing mix is just a couple of frames.What it is, effectively, is the same as charlie’s operation where he expands audio components, sets a custom edit overlap for both clips, fiddles with fade gui handles and generally spends an eternity doing what took me one keystroke and two mouse clicks.
so, you know, in summation, X is bad and should feel bad about itself.crystal clear, you need me on that wall, code red. the end.
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[Charlie Austin] “it’s an 18 farm dissolve, but sliding a centered dissolve so the midpoint occurs on the same frame as your dissolve with an off-center midpoint is exactly the same thing.”
also, what does this sentence even mean? I’m pretty certain it makes no sense though.
I don’t think you maybe totally understand what you’re talking about there charlie.Apart from anything else – you can’t slide the centre point of the dissolve in X. that’s the whole point. Are you trying to say that the X symmetrical dissolve is functionally no different from the asymmetrical dissolves available in ppro and 7? because you tried this before below, and it didn’t work out too well.
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ah god love you. What are you trying to convince yourself of charlie?
The basic issue that’s been kicking around is the workflow necessitated by its absence in X.Now you seem to be trying to say the feature somehow doesn’t semantically exist or something??
dear lord. You need to relax bud, warm up a nice snack or something.https://i.imgur.com/574uWB1.jpg
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ah charlie you poor soul. You’re trying so very hard there, to equate S-curve setting on your fade, with the ability set, in a keystroke or two, an audio dissolve say of 15 frames on the left, and three frames on the right. You don’t know how to do that in X, because you can’t – so you do that really tortuous thing where you expand clip components and do the 12-15 keystrokes jeff outlined.
man, you really having difficulty here aren’t you? I think it’s maybe melting your head a little bud. 🙂
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jesus you’re funny charlie. So there’s no such thing as an asymmetrical dissolve now. well, I use something that looks a lot like it, and you take 10-15 keystrokes and numerous edit trims, fade handles etc, to arrive at the same point.
you poor soul. you really have got the X religion fever bad haven’t you?? 😉
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[Charlie Austin] ” It’s a wash to me. “
but of course – just so long as you clearly and formally acknowledge that the X dissolve is basically useless, and your workaround, as in the video you posted there, involves close to ten times as many steps. which seems a bit of a nightmare frankly.
but hey, it works for you – in the end that’s the important thing.see how hard was that? 😉
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I’m not too sure why you went about it that way including the default dissolve, but all that still seems like quite a few clicks, handle drags, yet more clicks… and it seemed to take a while to put together? Again, I can’t believe you’re doing all that every single time. It seems bananas! 🙂
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I know what you’ll say, it’s too many steps.”
well… yes. you are kind of playing the piano there to get an adjustable audio dissolve.
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