Aindreas Gallagher
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no no, we’re not experiencing the shock of the new, we’re experiencing the shock of getting shafted.
X is a tool not fit for professional purpose designed for consumers: it’s shite editing software. telling me to shake it off will not alter the fundamental key problems with this software, those problems exist because they did not code the software for professional use. It IS a 64 bit iMovie. the kid in the youtube video is buying it. That’s apple’s market. My eyes aren’t glued on the rear view mirror, they’re glued to apple’s fat ass, because if I get a chance I am going to bury my boot in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TISkPbLlb04&feature=player_embedded
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amen frankly.
Did you know when you set in and out points on a clip, after you stamp it to the timeline, when you go back to that clip in the event library, the in and out point markers are gone? I mean – ha ha right? that is a chortling laugh.
I sometime think they must have had a list of all the things they didn’t give a shite about in this new release, and shurprise!! they’re all pro features. You know like they were going
“Tim, have we coded the vimeo export?
Yes Randy.
And the CNN iReport?
Yes Randy it’s in.
And.. let’s see.. do our clips in the event library retain their in and out marker points?
Well no Randy, but we figured f**k that – who needs that for the snowboarding video? Amiright? Amiright?
F**king A Tim. In and out point retention is not part of my revolution. Did you know I designed every editing system ever made Tim? I did, all of them, premiere, FCP, I did aperture too Tim. And do you know what Tim?
What Randy?
I am f**king bored of editing systems Tim, I am f**king bored of them, with their tracks and their two up views, I’m bored of it, so we are going to shake that world up and make it anew in my image, I’m going to figure it all out fresh Tim, I’m going to re-figure out what editing is, for everyone, it’s all going to change Tim, it’s all going to be utterly new, and Tim they will f**king thank me for it.
Randy Ubillos, if I may say so sir, you are a God.
Thanks Tim – also steve wants this thing to use magnetism somehow, so i think we’ll just f**king have all the clips glue together or something.
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Mmm. Placeholders are nice, but a gapless single track magnetic timeline is just crazy town in my head. I’m looking at the FCP 7 timeline right now and what apple have turned it into – I can’t take it in – it’s just crazy, crazy crazy.
I’m just refusing to accept apple’s imposed reality – I’m sticking to the basic argument that editing is a multitrack operation and the software is supposed to respect that fact. That software FCPX has been incontrovertibly simplified for the consumer market. Whatever else we say or feel about it, that is an inescapable truth, apple have taken a professional application and retooled it for consumers. That they could not have realised they were doing that, that what they were doing would impact negatively and directly on countless thousands of professional creatives, the people who are, or at least were once, the heart and soul of the apple brand… Apple did this in full knowledge.
And there, I’m back on my soap box: https://bit.ly/jIUH2N
Famous quote from Neil Armstrong:
“Randy Ubillos, you degenerate low IQ wart, FCP7 wasn’t a multitrack editor, editing is a multitrack operation, editing software is intended to be an expression of that truth.”http://www.ogallchoir.net
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Mm. Let’s see shall we? I know a fair few engineers – they are not, I would wager, going to dig this behaviour by apple, and they have long memories, and one of their key metrics is medium term system stability.
Or actually to put it another way – it’s kind of the opposite of what you just said- even if FCPX is killing it in two years, it will be incredibly easy for systems engineering to reject it out of hand citing their experience with FCS3.
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I’m trying to get a sense of this in general – do you like the gapless timeline behaviour? Or do you sort of just not mind it? I can be a bit of a slob, I’ll often keep whole versions of my edit lying around down the timeline and then scavenge them as I go, having every clip glued to the clip next to it is sort of giving me the heebee jeebies.. I know there are slugs you can squeeze in-between the clips, but in my mind that’s not really the same thing?
Also, do you like that clips you drop on V2 (I know, second storyline 🙂 auto attach to the clip below?
I’m not trying to rant or say that that behaviour is definitively flawed, I’m just genuinely curious
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Hmm, I dunno Chris, it’s not about what FCPX might become, it’s what apple have done to FCS3.
This is a longish quote from Denis Kutchera below-
Apple has not only set themselves up for the pro market to abandon Final Cut Pro, but also the Mac platform. We set up the post and production for a TV station around Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Server, XServe and Xsan in 2009. It was a nice package from what everyone felt was a reliable source. That facility is no longer scalable. How can they now even simply add one more workstation with Final Cut Studio 3 installed? Can’t, because Apple won’t sell you the software. And how many other facilities around the world are built like this? Final Cut must have easily 50% of the post market world wide, The broadcast equipment supplier we used built a good piece of their business around this kind of installation. After all that has gone down with Apple, I can see a wholesale shift to Windows PC based solutions because you don’t have to base your business on the hardware and software from one company, there always alternatives who can supply what you need when you use Windows.
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Now it may not work out like that, but it has a rather plausible ring to it. I know myself that one international broadcaster based in London is getting a push from engineering to EOL final cut and switch to premiere in this budget year. That happened in the first 48 hours of FCPXs release. They were like – that software does not fly, we’re switching. The editors are pushing back hard.
Engineering, particularly in broadcasting, also quite often prefer PCs because they, or rather the PC only software they can get on them, speaks better to other arcane station assets like K2 servers and the like. Also engineering doesn’t care what editing system we might want to use. That’s been my experience in the last two broadcasters I worked for. I fought pitched battles both times for Mac hardware. Apple’s actions here have given them perfect justification to wash their hands of apple entirely. It was the massive FCP skills base that forced them to start buying apple gear in the first place. I really do think apple have screwed the pooch here.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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Yeah, I don’t know if you read it yet, but I found this article totally fascinating –
Lots interesting reasoned stuff, there he makes the same essential point – if they had simply said FCS3 will be supported with updates and fixes through Lion, but should be considered a mature application that will not alter radically from now on.. And then apple could proudly say – this new app (whatever they choose to call it) represents the future of editing, when it is mature, it will take over from FCS.. That would have forestalled a lot of the firestorm.
But the way they’ve done this.. Broadcasters, facilities, post houses, they’ll none of them forget what apple did here – they’ll lable apple as a batshit unreliable software vendor for all time. Apple as a software vendor will have gone on an awful lot of people’s shit list.
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Really Simon? So on the whole you like her? I know there’s some great stuff in there, it’s a bit like a chocolate cake with bits of glass and barbed wire sticking out or something –
I’ve only had one stint with it at a mates facility, what do you think of the timeline? Does it drive you crazy, or do you think there is valid process in there? It started to drive me crazy pretty fast, clips on V2, yes, I am refusing to call it second storyline, automatically attaching.. That kind began to drive me up the walls, just staring at those bloody connectors snapping in.. Sorry I’m back to my rant.. But like, there’s no spaces you know? Where’s me spaces? I want me spaces, I want to be able to throw clips down the end without having to hold down the P key for half the edit session.. Or, am I not seeing a different methodology? Do you think the timeline methodology is valid, basically? Me very curious to hear ones thoughts..
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yeah that all makes total sense, I’m climbing down from throwing bricks at the skimmer.
I do like it in use, its nice to play with, I just have real hesitation thinking about it being used in anger with a total pile of assets.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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i was just trying to liven it up a little, sorry if my game show analogy tweaked one’s nose. You’re right too about the preview methodology. the point you made there makes perfect sense.
I will go now and find something else to beat this software up on. I may return to something I have beaten it up on before, there is always the godawful timeline – I know – you love the timeline, that is fine.
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