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Xsan Usage anyone ?
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Maybe this will help you: https://images.apple.com/finalcutpro/docs/Final_Cut_Pro_X_Xsan_Best_Practices.pdf
Jeremy
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Thanks Jeremy, thats interesting too. Still doesn’t seem to scale very well though, particularly the bit about SAN locations. I suppose its one of those “do it and find out” things.
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[James Mortner] “Thanks Jeremy, thats interesting too. Still doesn’t seem to scale very well though, particularly the bit about SAN locations.”
What do you mean? Scale to what?
Do you have Xsan now? How do you use it?
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “What do you mean? Scale to what?”
Like say if you had 20 seats of FCPX ? How would it work with people checking in and out ? What about mucky freelancers ?
[Jeremy Garchow] “Do you have Xsan now? How do you use it?”
Yes, we have 4 FCP 7, 2 art support, 20+ AFX and a SMAC running off an XSAN. Generally its really good ! Its all fibre and administered by an engineer
hence my silly questions about how FCPX would work with hiding events or moving files around. Permissions would be a problem for us as well i think -
[James Mortner] “Like say if you had 20 seats of FCPX ? How would it work with people checking in and out ? What about mucky freelancers ?”
Well, what do you do now? How do you prevent people from overwriting currency fcp7 projects?
Check in/check out is fairly simple and the permissions are pretty much handled by FCPX if all computers are on the network and attached via fibre.
You would just have to tell people to release the San location before quitting. Of someone else needs to work on it, they can then mount that location. You can’t have multiple people working on the exact same Event and Project at the same time currently, just like fcp7. But they can use the same media if you don’t bring it in to the Event, but rather reference it.
[James Mortner] “how FCPX would work with hiding events or moving files around. Permissions would be a problem for us as well i think”
With SAN Locations, you don’t have to move anything. You simply mount one location at a time on one machine, then release it, and mount elsewhere. Do you not have user groups setup on Xsan currently? How do you manage everything?
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Well, what do you do now? How do you prevent people from overwriting currency fcp7 projects?”
If ever two people have a project open, on save a warning dialog comes up checking if you really want to overwrite. We generally dont have to use same projects simultaneously though, it was me musing on how a large-scale edit facility might work IF there were alot of editors working together. Separate projects would work I suppose with separate SAN with referencing ?
[Jeremy Garchow] “Do you not have user groups setup on Xsan currently? How do you manage everything?”
We do, I just have no idea how that works. We have one capture scratch, its set and no one has to do anything other than open a project file and begin working.
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[James Mortner] “If ever two people have a project open, on save a warning dialog comes up checking if you really want to overwrite. We generally dont have to use same projects simultaneously though, it was me musing on how a large-scale edit facility might work IF there were alot of editors working together. Separate projects would work I suppose with separate SAN with referencing ?”
OK, James. I now have a better sense of how you use your SAN, and thanks for that.
In all honesty, I think you might be pleasantly surprised at how this works.
Of course, I can’t speak for you, and you should really give it a try.
You don’t need separate SANs.
A “SAN Location” is quite literally, a folder, or more accurately, a physical location on a SAN. That folder can be anywhere on the SAN, at any directory level, which is much different than how FCPX works with “local” drives, and it’s also why Event Manager X doesn’t work with SANs (and frankly, it might not have to if you use SAN Locations to their potential). You can have as many SAN Locations as you want, just make a new folder. You do not need a separate physical SAN or partition per user.
Hope that makes sense.
You can also mount more than one SAN Location at any station.
Conversely, if you use the “repository” method I outlined, you would have to be more aggressive with the user groups/permissions, and have to manually move folders around. In your case, I’m not sure if you need that and SAN locations will probably work very well for you.
It’s not perfect, but I have to say, as far as built in SAN support for an NLE it’s pretty decent, and fairly easy to manage. It does work differently, but once you try it, you might like it.
Jeremy
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Will do !
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