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  • Rafael Amador

    February 14, 2011 at 2:59 am

    [Wayne Carey] ” My broadcast station requires a 1080i29.97 ProRes422 HQ file. Its easier and faster for me to write my shows to XDCAM HD on our PDW-F70 decks and capture that file as ProRes422 HQ than it is to export my timeline to ProRes422 HQ. Exporting my timeline will take about 12 hours to render. It takes me only an hour and a half to write to the deck and capture back into ProRes 422 HQ.”
    That is OK if you are just cutting. If you needs to render your sequence, XDCAM is probably one of the worst option: 420 and LGOP.

    [John Heagy] “[Erick Stoll] “2. What’s the best way to export my sequence as XDCAM?”

    Export via Quicktime Movie… and use “Current Settings” assuming your timeline is set to the XDCAM codec. If the seq codec is set to ProRes it will start a long render and you’ll end up with ProRes. Make sure Make self contained movie is selected.”
    This is 100% wrong.
    Rendering to Prores (Intraframe) you will reduce the render time to a fraction.
    Why the “Render to Prores” option exists for XDCAM and HDV exists if not?

    [Erick Stoll] “What does it mean to “render in high precision”? Is this relevant to exporting and converting?”
    This way your sequence will be rendered in “32b Floating Point” instead of just 8b.
    Rendering will take longer but the results on effects and graphics are noticeable.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • John Heagy

    February 14, 2011 at 4:32 am

    [Rafael Amador] “This is 100% wrong.
    Rendering to Prores (Intraframe) you will reduce the render time to a fraction.
    Why the “Render to Prores” option exists for XDCAM and HDV exists if not?”

    Wow… 100% wrong. I guess that’s better than 50%… well maybe not.

    You quoted it, so I assume you read it when I wrote: if the seq codec is ProRes than you will get ProRes. As I said in my earlier response… if that’s the case then export ProRes. We’re talking about export time here, I’m assuming his timeline is rendered.

    His footage is XDCAM so there is no rendering if he does a Current Setting export. It will be a fast flatten only, no render required. Rendering to ProRes will take longer and gain nothing. Now if he does have some rendered elements, titles or effects – they will benefit from a ProRes export – again assuming he has the seq render and or codec set to ProRes… which goes back to my earlier advice.

    If he has the seg codec and render set to XDCAM, then ProRes gains nothing. If this is the case, and he does have a lot of rendered elements, then he will have to change his seg settings to ProRes and re-render to gain improved quality on those elements.

    Sometimes I wish I had your terse response abilities Rafael. Unfortunately the devil is always in the details.

    John Heagy

  • Erick Stoll

    February 14, 2011 at 4:36 am

    [John Heagy] “His footage is XDCAM so there is no rendering if he does a Current Setting export. It will be a fast flatten only, no render required. Rendering to ProRes will take longer and gain nothing. Now if he does have some rendered elements, titles or effects – they will benefit from a ProRes export – again assuming he has the seq render and or codec set to ProRes… which goes back to my earlier advice.”

    John – I have titles, 3 ProRes files, and a single SmoothCam effect.

    Can I still export out to XDCAM using “Current Setting” export? Or do I need to specifically choose 24p 720p XDCAM? Or should I even export to XDCAM, this being the case?

    Thanks.

  • Rafael Amador

    February 14, 2011 at 5:30 am

    Hi John,
    When we talk about a movie to be printed to HDCAM for theatrical, I assume that the movie is not just a bunch of cuts, and render the whole movie is needed. This is why I recommended Prores.
    If is just a sequence of cuts with few titles and effects and quality of those is not an issue, the XDCAM path may be OK.

    [John Heagy] “Sometimes I wish I had your terse response abilities Rafael”
    Sorry that English is not my mother tongue and I can’t mange it as I wish I could.
    Forget the detail (with devil on). No intention to offend.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • John Heagy

    February 15, 2011 at 2:26 am

    [Erick Stoll] “Can I still export out to XDCAM using “Current Setting” export? Or do I need to specifically choose 24p 720p XDCAM? Or should I even export to XDCAM, this being the case?

    Your camera footage is XDCAM 720p24… right? Then that is your Current setting and is what you’ll get from a current export.

    Is your seg render setting set to Current or ProRes? If ProRes I’d export ProRes if Current then Current for export. What your post house prefers is what you should do… so ask them.

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