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Hi David,
What you say makes a lot of sense. I perhaps slightly misunderstood the environment Tony was working in.
I suppose the problem is we all see the usefulness or not of FCPX or anything else for that matter in relation to the diverse environments we all work in.
For most of the places I work X is pretty much useless as it stands but of course that does not hold true for others.I see the value of being able to quickly use pre-formed templates, drop zones etc for that kind of formula. FCPX is fast and the clever integration of Motion does seem to lend itself well to that work.
Perhaps this is indeed where it will find its first niche.
best wishes
Neil
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[Neil Patience] “For most of the places I work X is pretty much useless as it stands but of course that does not hold true for others.”
Unfortunately, it doesn’t work for me either, at least not in its present state.
[Neil Patience] “I suppose the problem is we all see the usefulness or not of FCPX or anything else for that matter in relation to the diverse environments we all work in.”
I certainly agree with that. The biggest problem we typically have here is simply that some users who do find it useful can’t seem to tolerate the fact that it doesn’t work for everyone.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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This is the kind of jobs I expected FCPX shines.
I would have jumped on FCPX is I was making news or sports.
[tony west] “You wouldn’t know the difference when you watched.”
Shouldn’t be no difference whatever the NLE.
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Interesting thought, thanks for posting
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David, once again you nailed it!
When I saw X I thought back to my days in the late 80’s when we used to only have machine to machine cuts only edits in the field remote trucks for ABC and NBC Nightly news.I’m talking Network, before all the cable news 24 madness set in, when 6:00 ruled.
I remember when you could first do a dissolve in the field and we were jumping around dancing because we could do a DISSOLVE.
We would have killed for the power of something like X back then. Fast forward to today and X is looked at as a toy or kind of mocked a little.
My, my, my have things changed : ) the leaps and bounds of technology are kind of taken for granted
these days, but that’s cool, it just makes me smile a little when I think back.But YES David it has news written all over it in my mind.
News breaks, and you are on the scene shooting and then cutting and ready before the uplink drives up.
And Neil, I would like them to be even faster. I was telling them years ago to get
all their crap off of tape and on to a server. All clips should be named by what they are so when
an editor comes in they just type a player’s name in.I’m impatient, I HATE waiting to find shots. I want to spend my time in the creative process, not looking
for stuff or waiting on rendering.In all the Fox Sports affiliates they are sitting on piles of tape.
One day they will stop making the machines and then what will they play their stuff on?
It’s kind of funny for me because I was thinking of this way of working before X even came out.
X kind of turns the edit into google. That’s how you find what you want on the net right? You type it and it’s there.
Type the player’s name (get all clips on that player in a second) narrow to defensive plays or offensive plays, postseason play or whatever, but get the stuff FAST.
That way of working might not be for some, it’ s just how I want to do it. Everyone has their own way
of working. Down to the way people customize their keyboards.Apple did what I was talking about years ago. I wish I had done it first : )
Tony West
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I totally agree that X is very effective for news and sports. The Motion integration is great.
I do get my (private) DSLR and GoPro stuff done with a snip of the fingers.The things I do earn money with are quite often either impossible or time consuming. Take P2 or the old Alexa stuff I got. Take the BWAV I got. Where is the file based editing and the metadata?
Take the subtitling (or titling) things where a lot of people rely on me.
This is all gone.I can find a lot of arguments for trackless editing, I can find as same as lot for track based editing. Would be fine to have the choice.
Also would be fine if X wouldn’t switch the tool once you went to another app.
Could be great if you would be able to easily reconnect clips.
Would be great if XML would make sense and not all title formatting is lost
And so on …But I agree for sport/news/short spots it(FCPX) makes sense.
Andreas
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[tony west] “David, once again you nailed it!”
That’s great to hear Tony, thanks “muchly.”
This is really encouraging. You’ve really helped me to develop a better understanding of FCPX and it’s best potential. I have a better idea of why it doesn’t work for me, but I also have a better idea of why it might be cool for others.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
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Newtek already as Airplay available on their latest versions of Tricaster, and though that’s not broadcast sports, I am sure there are more than a couple of news remote trucks switching with Tricasters. I assume the next version of ipad, will be optimized for FCPX, making it entirely possible that a news package could be edited, on an ipad, and then go straight to air, without any intermediate infrastructure between ipad and switcher. Come to think of it somebody could shoot and edit and playback to air now…. on their iphone and imovie.
don walker
texarkana, texasJohn 3:16
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[David Roth Weiss] “This is really encouraging. You’ve really helped me to develop a better understanding of FCPX and it’s best potential. I have a better idea of why it doesn’t work for me, but I also have a better idea of why it might be cool for others.”
Apparently, it works OK for music videos, too. Might not be your favorite music, but this video looks pretty good. Graded in FCPX, composited in After Effects:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/344/5088
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Apparently, it works OK for music videos, too. Might not be your favorite music, but this video looks pretty good. Graded in FCPX, composited in After Effects:”
I’m perfectly willing to revise my previous philosophy to acknowledge that X is “okay” for some who work primarily in “short-form.” However, I ain’t going one iota beyond that in its present state.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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