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WWDC 2012: No New Mac Pro
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Let’s not stick our heads in the sand for rumors from David “fcpx is awesome” Pogue. Time to get ready to move on to real hardware when the time comes.
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Linkin Park was singing about the Mac Pro:
We’re building it up
To break it back down
We’re building it up
To burn it down
We can’t wait
To burn it to the groundDigital Colorist
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[Laco Gaal] “We just have to wait some more to get the refreshed ones with Thunderbolt, usb3, etc.etc.”
Don’t think so.
Thunderbolt is not a stick-on technology, its a motherboard thing, and there would have to be some serious re-thinks on the part of the Apple establishment to make the changes in the MacPro chassis that would make it worthwhile — and what we would wind up with is the same path that lead to FCX.
Thunderbolt is not an advantage when there is Fibre and SAS — even eSATA, especially if you are only working with ProRes bitrate densities. I cannot see Apple opening up or expanding the PCIe slot architecture, and that is what users like us really need.
MacPro is dead to me, Final Cut is frozen, until X becomes FCP8, which appears to be where it’s headed, finally, after it re-evolves through the five steps of grief.
jPo
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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Now it’s more than just a rumor:
As much as I hate to wait another year, the positive side is that this is the first time I see Apple revealing anything about future hardware. Maybe they finally figured out that the professional market needs a different approach then the consumer market.
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While I do think there will be a completely redesigned Mac Pro, Thunderbolt is not necessarily a motherboard thing. Asus is doing Thunderbolt on a PCIe card. It’s actually pretty obvious how that works, since TB is just an extension of PCIe.
Apple has apparently also confirmed reports of new Mac Pros for next year, so it seems yesterday’s feeble “update” was indeed meant as a stopgap signal that the line’s not dead.
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Thunderbolt is a motherboard chipset thing. ASUS’s card isn’t a pci card, it’s a daughter card that requires an asus motherboard with a TB capable chipset.
The next MacPro will probably not be a very good resolve solution. If you want resolve performance, it seems well need to look elsewhere.
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Or maybe they realized the pseudo update was a giant pr screwup. Either way, I’d expect the next MacPro won’t be much good for resolve. If building a new Resolve system I would highly recommend a pc based system,
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I’m not sure what you’re basing “The next Mac Pro will probably not be a very good Resolve solution” on, unless you have some inside info. It’s a shame it won’t be out until next year, but I see no reason why it shouldn’t be an excellent Resolve platform, especially now that Apple seems to be moving back to Nvidia for GPUs.
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Because the clear pattern has been less and less expansion builtin and more and more dependence on Thunderbolt. Even current macpros don’t have enough pci slots as it is. We have to add cubix expanders and extra power supplies to get what pc configs are able to do in one box. Check out the performance claims in the bmd win config guide.
They dropped the 17″ & removed express ports from everything. You really think the next MacPro will have pci slots? Ha!
And as to gpu, it would literally cost apple nothing to add a more modern gpu option to mp. Clearly nvidia wants us to buy their cards. They released the magic drivers. All apple would need to do is give their blessing. Instead they kept the same 3gen old cards from ati in the “new” macpro. They don’t want to sell us an end user configurable machine.
To me they’re saying it pretty clearly… when my clients ask me for advice on configuring a Resolve system, I will strongly recommend a PC.
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[Joakim Ziegler] “Apple seems to be moving back to Nvidia for GPUs.”
Right on cue, somebody seems to have drilled down on the Mountain Lion Developer Preview 4 and found GTX 680 / kepler support. Dave P. posted this over at macrumors:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1385329
KC
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