Workflow Canon C300 SPARSEIMAGE files AMA LINK to AVID

[Per Scaffidi]

Canon XF viewer creates a new copy of the files that are rewrapped. Your original files will still exist.

[Leire Egana]

Hi, I have wrapped the files using Canon XF utility creating .MXF files, but I am still unable to AMA link to them on Avid. It doesn’t auto detect the plug in but it doesn’t either work if I select the MXF plug in. I keep getting this error message:

***Error = ‘Exception: FATAL_ERROR, msg:DIDDescriptor: GetAAFProperties could not determine the video format by using DeriveMCDataFromStandardParameters()., file:/Snapshots/relengmtnlion2_1418961066/coresw/ame/src/msm/DIDDescriptor.c, line:2367’.

Any clue?

[Michael Phillips]

I experienced the same issue when using the Canon Utility. The only way I could get it to work was to use Resolve Lite in a dailies type workflow exporting .mov with either DNxHD or ProRes codec or native MXF wrapped DNxHD.

I never heard back from Canon when asking about 24.000 support being added to their AMA plug-in.

Michael

[Leire Egana]

Hi Michael, glad to hear from you.
Yes, it’s very annoying this issue especially since the C300 has been in the market for some time now. How about using Premiere instead? Is this workflow easier?

I also have another question: how does the relink to raw rushes work from Resolve after doing the wrapped MXF? Sorry if this has a very obvious answer and thank you in advance for your help.

[Michael Phillips]

I’ll try loading up your test clip in Premiere Pro and see it works. I’m inclined to think it just will. As far as using Resolve, when you load up the sources in the Media Pool, you want to make sure that you set the REEL assignment correctly. This is done in settings on the default tab where it says “assist conform” as you see here in this screenshot:

From there, you create a timeline with all the clips, then go to the deliver page and make sure “individual clips” is selected along with container and codec type from the menu selects.

Michael

[Michael Phillips]

I confirmed that Premiere Pro plays back your test files just fine – so you can either edit there, or create Media Composer compatible files from Adobe Media Encoder rather than using Resolve. I will send you a QT wrapped DNxHD back to via email.

Michael

[Leire Egana]

Thank you, Michael.
Then if I understand correctly, I won’t have to do any converting if I work on Premiere and if I follow the steps on Resolve, the material should link correctly to the raw rushes on the sparse image.

Although I got the license for Avid, I am glad to have found a solution and finally be able to move forward.

[Michael Phillips]

Correct on both points when using Canon at 24.000 fps.

Michael

[Michael Phillips]

As an FYI – upon further investigation with Canon on the 24.000 limitation, it is actually an Avid Media Composer issue and not a Canon AMA issue. From Canon:

Avid supports 24.00, but not in Long GOP format which is what the XF-MPEG Codec records in. Not a Canon AMA issue, but a lack of support within AVID for that format.

So there you have it. Getting to the bottom of these issues is always painful in trying to get to the heart of a problem when multiple vendors are involved. 🙂

Michael