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Will FCX be around for a while?
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[Herb Sevush] “Once your multicam source is created you can open it in a timeline, select any or all tracks and choose either Set or Scale to frame size (more options, more complexity, more choices) for any offending camera angles and all those nasty black bars will go away.”
Or indeed simply use the Motion tab of the Effect Controls for each track to set the size, which is exactly the workflow that Robin describes for FCP X … ironically.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “If they needed it, sure. Don’t see why I wouldn’t.”
So every time you’re going to make a multiclip you routinely check each clip and if they have so much as a bump you apply L&L just in case you might need that moment stabilized – are you saying that is your workflow?
Talk about waste – the amount of time wasted in reviewing your clips far exceeds any possible time spent tweaking a PPro multicam for frame size problems.Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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If you say so.
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Something that doesn’t get mentioned much – you can edit an Oscar winning production on virtually anything – Imovie -FCP 10 Premiere – Avid – Edius ..Resolve. Some have more convenient bells and whistles but there’s hardly a thing you can do in one that you can’t make happen on the other.
Working at a Television Network and on independent productions, i’ve had to learn them all – have my preferences, but whatever they put in front of me, i’ll use to create.
So whether FCP 10 lives on doesn’t matter as much as you’re ability to use them all.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “[Joe Marler] “The FCPX deficiency in how stabilization, optical flow and tracking plugins work is a dark, dirty corner of the product.”
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What does that mean? Care to elaborate?You’ll note there is no stabilization option for multicam, just like there is no optical flow smoothing, no Audition option, nor will a tracking plugin like CoreMelt’s SliceX work on multicam. In fact SliceX throws an error saying “cannot be used with multicam clips. Please switch to the angle editor and process the angle videos separately”.
What they really mean is you must backtrack and find the exact range in the base clip that corresponds to the edited MC clip, then blade that range, apply the effect then jump back to the MC clip and examine it.
The same thing applies with stabilization and optical flow smoothing. In general the procedure is:
1. Select clip on timeline
2. Shift+F to locate clip in event browser
3. CMD+1 to select event browser
4. Note clip begin/end time code and write them down
5. Double-click on clip in event browser to open in angle editor
6. In angle editor press CTRL+P and type in the timecode you wrote down
7. Blade that section of the clip, the apply stabilization
8. Return to main timeline
9. If stabilization needs adjusting (parameters aren’t available in Inspector for MC clip), then do it all again.
10. Repeat entire process for every MC clip requiring stabilization, optical flow, or trackingIn Premiere, the procedure is:
(1) Apply stabilization to edited MC clip — that’s it
Apple is very fortunate that Adobe has not done an “I’m a Mac, I’m a PC” ad for things like this. In an area where Apple claims ease of use, this is utterly embarrassing.
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[Joe Marler] “In an area where Apple claims ease of use, this is utterly embarrassing.”
One reason why FCPX should have a function to flatten a multicam timeline, like other NLEs.
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[Herb Sevush] “This is so wrong it’s scary. Stabilization is something to be applied sparingly in that it often doesn’t work the way you expected and it changes the composition of the entire clip it is applied too, even if the fault you were seeking to fix is in only one place.”
Dang it. I forgot again that everyone else is supposed to work like you guys. And think like you guys.
I’ll change everything I do now, because I’ve finally realized that everyone shoots 14 cameras and follows steaming shaky pots in kitchens whilst clinging to a technique that’s usefull sometimes – but I use it always cuz We X editors are just that dumb.
Seriously, OF course there are types of gigs where any one particular strategy will fail.
And hopefully a thousand others where it will succeed.
And knowing the difference is what experience is all about. Herb, you still have NO experience with X. So keep focused on how it will never do what you want it to do. And for sure keep telling the guys that use it daily – how it works – cuz that’s fun to read. I’m sure that will remain comforting for at least another five years for you.
Enjoy those months.
Heck, maybe I’ll join in and tell you all the things I imagine other software doesn’t do based on how well I don’t understand IT! It’d be FUN for everyone! Really.
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By the way…
Since everyone has conviententy ignored your original question, I thought I’d actually answer your question directly.
Apple publicaly said in 2011 when they released the FCP X re-code that they had a 10 year plan for it.
My personal bet is that since it’s the only software that’s truly pushed the innovation bar very far recently – it’s got a whole lot more to contribute to the industry.
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[Bill Davis] “Since everyone has conviententy ignored your original question, I thought I’d actually answer your question directly.”
Quite a few of us didn’t…and replied early on. Things just got lost in the shuffle, which tends to happen here. But we did answer, with our speculations, or non-speculations. No need to get huffy (not the bike!) about it.
🙂
Maybe a little Schwinn…but not Huffy.
Shane
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[Bill Davis] “And knowing the difference is what experience is all about. Herb, you still have NO experience with X. So keep focused on how it will never do what you want it to do.”
Maybe, but his point about stabilising an ENTIRE long clip is valid, many actual FCPX Editors WITH experience think that the lack of stabilisation and other features on multicam clips is a deficiency.
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