Will FCPX be continued?

[Chris Harlan]

[tony west] “When I look at a crew of people with means, money is factored out. They can buy what they want and
most of them have the Iphone.”

Tony, I know quite a few people with “means” who have made other choices. I think you might want to reel this one back in.

[Dennis Radeke]

[Craig Seeman] “I’d disagree at least about the potential. They can develop fewer features and release more frequently rather than more features with longer development and QA cycles common in the old distribution model. There’s no reason to have 18-24 month cycle. They can have can have less ambitious upgrades in a 6-9 month cycle for example.”

Well at least at Adobe, I doubt we’ll go for less than 12 months in the immediate future for two reasons. QA is VERY important to us and anyone who minimizes its importance distributes buggy software. Second, how companies can recognize revenue is much more restricted than you think – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_Act

[Tony West]

AT&T

[Craig Seeman]

Sharp® FX (TM) PLUS
https://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=Sharp®+FX(TM)+PLUS&q_sku=sku5370275#fbid=80gvxeLUxo7
ANDROID(TM) 2.2 OS
Already a version behind in the OS as current is 2.3 and who knows if you’ll ever be able to update to the current. Meanwhile even the iPhone 3GS is at current version iOS 5

Camera 3 megapixels
Which is what the previous iPhone 4 had

Internal memory storageUp to 512 MB
Expandable memory storageUp to 32 GB
Memory Card Included2 GB microSD(TM)
and this can be another issue given the way apps are stored. limited built in memory and only comes with 2GB mSD card.

Display size3.2 inches
Colors256K
Resolution (pixels)HVGA 480 x 320
Not close to iPhone 4 land especially not 4S

[Tony West]

So one version back would make it the equivalent of the Iphone 4 which you said was 99

So……cheaper at free

[Craig Seeman]

[tony west] “So one version back would make it the equivalent of the Iphone 4 which you said was 99”

No. iPhone 4 has current OS iOS 5.
All currently sold Apple phones are using the current operating system.
Many of the Android phones, especially the free/cheap are running earlier operating systems and in many if not most cases can’t be updated since the carrier actually controls this “open” (really carrier modified and controlled) OS. This, along with the wide variety of hardware results in app compatibility issues as well.

[Walter Soyka]

[tony west] “apples to apples. 4s is the newest iphone and the cheapest deal I see on AT is 199. a new fx is free”

[tony west] “For example, someone who wants the Iphone but can’t afford one is not the same thing as not wanting one. When I look at a crew of people with means, money is factored out. They can buy what they want and most of them have the Iphone. What people want and can’t afford doesn’t show up in the sales numbers. To me it’s more accurate to look at if you can afford whatever you want, what do you buy then.”

How can we compare apples to apples? We’re talking about the iPhone platform versus the Android platform. There is not just one expensive iPhone and not just one cheap Android. You can spend a lot on an Android and you can spend a little on an iPhone, or vice versa. There are a range of each, across a range of prices, on a range of hardware options, with a range of capabilities.

People buy the best phone they can that fits their needs. The iPhone is a good phone, so it’s a good choice for a lot of people. But there are a lot of good Android phones, too, and they are also good choices for a lot of people.

[tony west] “My first point was that when the iphone first came out people with other smart phones cracked on the iphone and said it was missing this and that. Kind of like they did with X.”

But the original iPhone deserved to get cracked on. It was a smartphone that couldn’t run apps (remember, when the iPhone launched, it ran web apps only — the SDK for native apps didn’t come out until 9 months later.) It couldn’t multitask, and it couldn’t copy and paste!

FCPX deserves to get cracked on, too, because it’s missing things that a proper NLE should do.

The iPhone matured with time, and I’m sure FCPX will, too. When FCPX becomes a better NLE, just as the iPhone became a better smartphone, people will stop cracking on it.

Until then, it earns its criticism (just as it earns its praise).

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Tony West]

Right, this phone is cheaper than the Iphone 4

[Lance Bachelder]

So Adobe has released 2 bug fixes since the release of PPro 5.5 in APRIL. 5.5.1 on Sept. 12th and 5.5.2 on Nov. 1st.

Apple has released 2 FCPX bug fixes since being released in JUNE. 10.01 around Sept.20th, which also included new and improved features and 10.02 on Nov. 16th. They also updated the codec pack in Oct. Seems Apple is doing okay with updates… we’ll see how big the next one is.

As far as current bugginess, I have not been able to crash 10.02 on Lion yet.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California

[Dennis Radeke]

[Oliver Peters] “Not 100% sure on that. Adobe makes updates via their own Adobe Updater. I’m not sure how big their patches typically are. I think they are actually patches rather than full installs,”

Update sizes vary as does the scope of a patch. They are also patches as not full installers.

Dennis – Adobe guy